Vera Nagel

For reference please consult TMG's Help and i.e. search for: preposition

Quoting Help topic "Prepositions" it i.e. tells regarding "Places"

Places: The place is preceded with "at," "in," or nothing, according to the setting in the Places tab of the Report Options Screen for the report being generated.

That being said if you i.e. want to create an Individual Report for any person within your database > click on "Options" on the Report Definition Screen > in Report Options go to the "Places" tab and check any of the available options regarding "Prepositions" on the upper right.

In order to update this topic and for means of reference regarding this issue caused by a third party program.

Judy just posted on TMG-L:

Okay, here's what happened:

 

I upgraded my STOPzilla software and, as a result, received the error message that you see in the Subject field above. STOPzilla apparently saw two files as being malicious and quarantined them. (Perhaps had I realized that at the time, I could have removed them from the quarantine folder.) When this happened once before (which I had forgotten about), Jim Byram sent me the two files with instructions on where to copy them and how to register them.

 

I spoke with a tech rep at STOPzilla today (it's nice that you can easily reach a real person), and he told me what to do to report this to STOPzilla, as they apparently update their files accordingly. When this happened to me previously, I believe it was with a another anti-malware program.

 

I hope that's sufficient...since the problem was software-specific.

 

Judy Madnick

Jacksonville, FL

Judy,

as the archive of the TMG mailing list on Rootsweb shows you posted a request for help with exactly this same issue there on 01/01/12.

Please see here:

http://archiver.root...2-01/1325457128

Then you continued this thread on the TMG mailing list under the subject "Reinstalling TMG8" i.e. see here:

http://archiver.root...2-01/1325474285

There are a couple of replies to this thread, Jim Byram contacted you directly after you had written

I uninstalled, removed the program folder, and reinstalled -- same error message.

And then on 01/02/2012 you replied on the mailing list

At this point I think I'm going to wait to hear back from TMG support. Nothing comes up in a search, and there have definitely been updates to my computer since I installed TMG.

So I'd kindly suggest to do what you did back then to solve your issue.

Unfortunately I am unable to find any message on the TMG Mailing list which provides information about how you were apparently able to solve this.

[Just noticed that you also posted a new request for help on TMG-L on 12/18/2012 in parallel.]

Roger,

using your example above please open the Tag Entry screens of your primary name tag and also of your non primary name tag.

From each Tag Entry screen please tell us exactly in which fields you entered which data and also what the "Sort" fields show

i.e.:

GivenName = Vera

Surname = Nagel

SortSurname = Nagel

SortGiven = Vera

Roger,

this screenshot (from TMG's Sample Project) may help to visualize primary names and non-primary names as to be seen in the person's detail window

Roger,

the Project Explorer is a list of names and not of people. Therefore you see primary names (indicated by a preceding asterisk) as well as other names, like non-primary married names, nicknames etc in the Project Explorer (PE).

If you really want to see primary names only within the Project Explorer (I for one would not want that because that way i.e. married names I had recorded would no longer be displayed), then you may filter the PE for primary names only.

For reference please see topic "Project Explorer" in TMG Help.

Roger,

Windows > Start Menu > All Programs > The Master Genealogist v8 > Visual Chartform

You're very welcome, Derek and there's nothing to feel sorry for at all.

Derek,

not sure if that helps, but "Marriage" only shows up on the Add Person Screen if you are adding a husband, wife, or spouse to any already existing person in your project/dataset.

To look-up TMG Help > Add Person Screen may be of additional help.

Hallo Peter,

die Startseite zur deutschen TMG-Anwendergruppe findest Du hier:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tmgde

Sie besteht bereits seit August 2001 und ist nur für angemeldete Mitglieder zugänglich.

Hallo Vera,

bei dieser Gelegenheit ein Extra-Gruß mit Dank für Terry's und Deine TMG-Tipps, die mir schon oft weitergeholfen haben.

Peter

Hallo Peter,

schön zu hören, daß Du Dein aktuelles Problem lösen konntest und Danke für die lieben Worte. Bist Du eigentlich auch Mitglied der deutschen TMG-Anwendergruppe bei Yahoo?

Herzliche Grüsse nach Hamburg

Hallo Peter,

das o.a. Verhalten kann ich weder bei einer eingestellten Programm-Sprache "Englisch US" noch bei "Deutsch" nachvollziehen. Es ist auch egal, ob ich als Berichts-Ausgabe die Bildschirm-Vorschau wähle oder das Ganze z.B. als Word-Datei ausgebe.

Welche TMG Version ist unter welchem Betriebssystem im Einsatz?

Tritt das geschilderte Verhalten auch im TMG-Beispiel-Projekt auf?

I have seen other programs exporting it by ASSO/RELA flags.

 

Here an example:

Gerhard Leininger was godfather at the baptism of Martina Leininger

 

 

0 @I151@ INDI

1 REFN 151

1 NAME Gerhard /Leininger/

2 GIVN Gerhard

2 SURN Leininger

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 17 JUL 1952

2 PLAC Wien

 

0 @I149@ INDI

1 REFN 149

1 NAME Martina /Leininger/

2 GIVN Martina

2 SURN Leininger

1 SEX F

1 BIRT

2 DATE 27 SEP 1978

2 PLAC Wien

1 CHR

2 DATE 11 AUG 1980

2 PLAC Wien

2 ASSO @I151@

3 RELA godfather

 

Hallo Helmut,

eine Frage rein interessehalber: Aus welchem anderen Genealogie-Programm stammt denn bitte der o.a. GEDCOM Export?

Just in case I was unclear. The following is defined/permitted in Gerhard's record to show he is the godfather of Martina. But there is no way to link that relationship to a specific event, such as a Christening. GEDCOM only defines a relationship from person to person.

0 @I151@ INDI

1 REFN 151

1 NAME Gerhard /Leininger/

2 GIVN Gerhard

2 SURN Leininger

1 ASSO @I149@

2 RELA godfather

But an ASSO within Martina's CHR Christening record.is not defined/permitted in the standard.

Michael,

while absolutely I agree to everything else you're saying, your example above confuses me a bit, I have to admit.

GEDCOM 5.5 says:

"....Other associations or relationships are represented by the ASSOciation tag. The person's relation or association is the person being pointed to . The association or relationship is stated by the value on the subordinate RELA line.....

....RELATION_IS_DESCRIPTOR: = {Size=1:25}

A word or phrase that states object 1's relation is object 2. For example you would read the following as "Joe Jacob's great grandson is the person pointed to by the @XREF:INDI>@":

0 INDI

1 NAME Joe /Jacob/

1 ASSO @XREF:INDI>@

2 RELA great grandson

[NOTE: The ASSOCIATION_STRUCTURE can only link to an INDIVIDUAL_RECORD.]"

If I apply this to your example above, it reads that Martina (=I149) is the godfather of Gerhard.

As has been mentioned before, this person most likely doesn't have a death date.

If so, check the Value of the LIVING flag for this person.

In case it is set to "?" (without the quotes) then the OtherInfo box will -in your case- provide this person's age as: 3?

Hi Neil,

make use of TMG's "Sort Date" functionality by which you can control how various events / tags are sorted i.e. in relation to other events / tags for this person. That's the only option I am aware of to do exactly what you want.

To be honest I am very happy that TMG does not apply any kind of automatic process simply based on the tag type which in your example would sort a burial as the "last event in a person's life" since that may be correct or may not be correct. - i.e. what about a person's will being opened after his/her burial or an obit being published in a newspaper after a person's burial?

Excerpt from TMG Help for TMGv7:

Sort Date

(Turned off in Beginner Mode)

Sort dates are used to maintain chronological order on the Person View, and in narrative reports, Individual Detail reports and Family Group Sheets. They do not print or export and have no genealogical significance.

 

To access the sort date field:

1. Go to File > Preferences > Program options: Prompts.

2. Place a check next to Access sort date field.

3. Click the Program options: Data Entry tab.

4. Select the Data Entry Mode: Advanced radio button.

5. Click [Apply] to save the change and continue in Preferences

or

Click [OK] to save the change and leave Preferences.

Al,

you apparently still use TMGv 8.00, correct?

If so, there existed an issue in that TMG version regarding FTM2008/2009 imports since the installer didn’t register a certain, required *.DLL file in the TMG8 program folder which resulted in the exact error condition you describe above.

That issue was fixed and since TMGv 8.00 is pretty outdated by now, my recommendation is to upgrade to the current version TMG v 8.04 and you'll not run into this FTM2008/2009 import issue anymore.

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Regarding the GEDCOM import....

When you open the GEDCOM file in a pure text editor (not WORD for instance) - like i.e. Notepad- and look at it's beginning you'll notice a line: 1 CHAR .... - the character set being used.

Is this set to ANSI ?

Hi,

sure, that is possible.

A great number of topics and decorated chart examples which may cover what you're looking for have been posted in the VCF Forum over time.

In order to see all topics being posted in this forum please do the following:

-while being on the main page of the VCF forum - http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?showforum=18 click on "Custom" within the bar with the blue background where you also see "Recently Updated".

-on the next submenu select "All Topics" for Show topic type - "Show All" for Time frame - and click the check box on the left of "Remember filters"

-then say "Update Filter"

Now i.e. look for topics started by Mike Talbot who besides others posted a great number of such topics incl. chart examples (i.e. this one: http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?showtopic=14307 ) which may be what you are looking for.

Hello Earl,

yes, for the time being this is an issue which will however be fixed in a future version of TMG.

[Just for completeness: The other thread dealing with it is:

http://www.whollygen...showtopic=14244 ]

Another important aspect is that we only talk about characters being part of ANSI since TMG doesn't support Unicode.

With special regard to German I provided a workaround how to circumvent this inconvenience in the topic above.

Anyway, as far as I can tell only the Researcher Info, being included in report outputs, is affected and not the Table of Contents. I just tested the latter and don't see any issue there. In case you may see anything different, please provide an example.

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As to the second part of your question:

Also, what other special hurdles must French and German users (in particular) face when attempting to successfully use this program.

the shortened answer is: there's nothing special such users have to "face" that English users don't face.

In order to use any program successfully a user needs to understand the program's "characteristics/basics". While TMG supports various languages, TMG's "native language" is English. Almost each non-English user will for sure immediately switch TMG's interface language to any of the supported languages (in case he/she didn't even install TMG in any other supported language besides English). When doing so -i.e. to German- TMG informs the user:

Please pay special attention to what it says in the second and the third paragraph.

Included translations to Dutch, Norwegian and German are at a stage close to 100%. This i.e. includes: interface, prompts, warnings, tag types, sentences, roles, reminders, styles....

Meantime TMG's Help file is also available in Dutch since TMGv8.04, but only if the user installs TMG in Dutch!

Another 'TMG part' which is available in English only is VCF (Visual Chart Form).

In order to help German TMG users -in particular- a number of pages/articles of 'Terry's TMG Tips' have been translated to German. While those translations were done quite some time back, the basics still apply in order to understand how the program works and to make successful use of it. Besides that there's a special German TMG user group on Yahoo (group language is German).

From my long-standing support experience with special regard to German users it seems to be some kind of special challenge for a number of them to make use of sources since TMG does i.e. not include "German source templates."

Did that answer your question or did you have anything else in mind?

Janice,

standard options for the Researcher Information i.e. for a family group sheet are:

-Name

-Address

-Prepared date

-Phone

-E-Mail

-Website

None of these give by default: ...generated by [version of TMG]

So the output you see seems to be something you entered yourself in the Researcher Information.

Please check: File > Preferences > Current Project Options > General > Researcher information

Wendy,

does it make a difference if you try to run any of these reports, you're having trouble with, from the 'reporting toolbar' instead of using the menu 'Report' > .... ?

(To make the 'reporting toolbar' part of your TMG layout go to View > Toolbars > and check 'Reporting'.)

Glad to be able to help, Ray.

Please follow the steps as provided in Jim Byram's topic "Re-Installing TMG8" here:

http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?showtopic=14634

Ray,

first, which TMG version do you use please?

Other than that:

- the Ahnentafel report provides the ancestors of a person, not his/her descendants.

- if you're i.e. using TMGv6 or later.... on the report options screen for an Ahnentafel report > General tab > "Surety".... make sure to check both: "Threshold 0" (zero) plus "Include blank surety".

Hope that helps.

As the Change Log for TMGv8.03.0000 says: "The preview screen allowed editing and should not have done so."

In other words this was a bug which has been fixed in the current version of TMG.

Besides that: editing the preview screen only "worked" (and even that should not have been possible) if you deleted text from the preview. If you i.e. wanted to add text on the preview screen it always failed.