strathglass

Thanks Michael! Good to know ... will probably follow up with Darren on the TNG side at some point about this.

So I guess if it is not standardized, then confusion will abound!

To answer Jim's question, the TNG software requires me to massage the GPS as follows:

If TMG outputs this line:

2 PLAC Our Lady of Calvary Cemetery, 134 Forest Street, Yarmouth, Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia, Canada, , , 43.831944,-66.102222

Then I need keep that line (but strip off the lat/long info at the end) and add new lines before the closing "0 TRLR" line:

below is what the output would look like.

Note that if a place's "2 PLAC" line occurs multiple times (e.g. I have several people listed as buried in the same cemetery), then the lines I add at the end should only add one entry per unique "2 PLAC" entry".

2 PLAC Our Lady of Calvary Cemetery, 134 Forest Street, Yarmouth, Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia, Canada

...

0 PLAC Our Lady of Calvary Cemetery, 134 Forest Street, Yarmouth, Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia, Canada
1 MAP
2 LATI 43.831944
2 LONG -66.102222

Keep in mind that the old 'compass' format introduced a considerable degree of rounding imprecision to the actual GPS data that you get from the satellites. The decimal format gives you precise locations with GPS devices and with mapping systems.

The good thing is the massaged format (as required by TNG) maintains the decimal format that TMG is exporting.

I'm assuming one of TMG and TNG is not quite compliant to the GEDCOM standard given that I have to do this massaging!!

OK, thanks. I will update my perl script to handle the new decimal format (need to massage that data for certain other GEDCOM consumers I use).

-S

My TMG used to output GEDCOM files with latitude/longitude information in this format:

For the benefit of others:

OK - answered my own question:

downloaded John Cardinal's TMG utility and ran an exhibit report with it (missing exhibits only) - this let me identify the source record that had the missing exhibit.

(Just deleted it as it already also had the NOT missing PDF version!).

With v8.08 I backup my project and get an error about a missing exhibit, and the last backup log indicates this (running on a Mac under Parallels; all TMG files are on the Parallels C drive):

Thanks for the link ... that is the 8.08 version, just what I needed - that installed fine (since no uprgade required!).

The link should be on the web site still I think!

Regards...

Updating from 8.06 to 8.08 resulted in an error and the automatic installer program rollback procedure resulted in the complete removal of the TMG application (it did NOT revert to the original v8.06).

Re-installing 8.06, opening the sample DB, and executing the upgrade process again results in the same error (regardless of whether I close TMG before starting the upgrade or not).

Any suggestions to work around this bug and get v8.08 successfully installed?

Anyone know the secret link to where I can just download v8.08 (since v9 is out, I assume it is NOT available anymore).

Thanks in advance.

PS: Here is the error message:

PPS: Here is the tail end of the error log:

Just following up in case someone with the answer missed my original post.

-Colin

Is there a reason I can't put images in as footnotes or endnotes in an ahnentafel report? Those options are grayed out and so I choose embedded ... but embedded leaves the images coming out on top with no context preceding them: you have to go AFTER all the pictures to see the text for the person associated with those exhibit(s), which doesn't make sense to me.

-Colin

Thanks Terry, looks like I am good (registered to me).

At least until time for next update!!

-Colin

I think Virginia has hit at the gist of my issue:

The above directory remains (empty, except for a "pdf" subfolder with an "install.log" file), and I cannot delete it.

The error message when trying is that "Access is denied."

I've tried some obvious and not-so-obvious things, but it does not work.

So I tried some more!

I did start by changing the folder owner from SYSTEM to myself (colin) (right click folder, click Properties, click Security tab, click Advanced button, click "Change" link beside owner name, add my name "colin", then click OK)

...but when I tried to propagate that ownership change down to all child objects (i.e. subfolder & file) via the checkbox to do this ("Replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object"), I get this error:

But then if I change the owner of each object in the directory tree one at a time and also give full permissions (to my own "colin" account), starting from the bottom, i.e. starting from the "install.log file, then following with "pdf" directory, then ending with "The Master Genealogist v8" directory, that seemed to work ... it seemed to successfully change ownership and permission.

Next, trying to delete the "The Master Genealogist v8", I still run into issues!

However, if do it bottom up, i.e. if I first delete install.log, then delete pdf directory, then delete "C:Program Files (x86)The Master Genealogist v8"...THAT finally worked!

OH MY GOD! How bad can Win8 really be? I mean...REALLY? How messed up!

Anyways, after all the above, I am finally allowed to install the demo 8.04 TMG OK!

Running the install program, all seems OK, and now I am running TMG 8.04! Yahoo.

There may be other remnants of the original install (although I didn't see any under my home dir, FYI), but they didn't cause a problem.

Now, I probably had a remnant somewhere with my serial number, because the demo 8.04 didn't ask me for it:

how can I tell if I have a fully functional unlocked non-demo install???

-Colin

New Win8 Release Preview installed as a VM under Parallels 8 on Mac OS X 10.7.5.

Installed 8.0 and registered OK (with just sample database).

Downloaded latest version 8.04 from within the program, but the install failed with an error message I noticed in another thread here:

"There is a problem with this Windows installer package. A program run as part of the setup did not finish as expected"

In the end that failed upgrade left TMG8 uninstalled completely (at least, no program left to run...some remnants exist).

So I downloaded the demo and tried to install that...it failed (just hangs after selecting language and then getting to INSTALL button).

Hmmm ... is there any hope?

There is still a TMG V8 program folder under C:\Program Files (x86), but I have no way of deleting that directory.

Any advice gladly accepted!

-Colin

Terry - thanks for your detailed reply.

Cause of Death - just want to add it for interesting cases.

So I will take your advice and use the Memo of the Death tag.

However, because I prefer to write the memo as a standalone sentence, or paragraph, I would make the sentence end as <. [M]> (i.e. period not comma) (I assume that is not a problem).

PDFs:

Is an RTF file considered "true text"? I had assumed not, but am not sure.

Mostly I want to use PDFs for reference (but sometimes one would be worthy of use in a report).

Good to know SS can display PDFs (limitations of PDFs duly noted).

I still like to attach PDFs for reference because it makes it easy to find the PDF associated with the tag.

Regards,

Colin

^{Add PDFs using the next option "Insert New Exhibit (Other)".}

Neil - thanks, but I don't see any such option.

Can you describe exactly how to access this screen?

-Colin

I'm no TMG power user, so I need some help with a couple simple questions:

What is the best way to enter cause of death information?

I was using a NOTES tag, but maybe it could go in the DEATH tag with a custom sentence (but I don't think that is practical) or as a custom tag?

Just wanted to understand what is the best approach and why (or at least pros & cons of the different approaches).

Also, it looks like PDF exhibits are not supported.

What should I do with my PDF files???

The exhibit dialog allows RTF files but I notice when I added PDF anyways, it says ony "true" text files are supported, which would mean not even RTF is supported since that is not true text, so why do they allow RTF???

Anyway, looking for recommendations.

THANKS!

-Colin

Ahhh - that did it. Thanks Virginia!

-strathglass

Thanks Paul.

Anyone know how I can restore the standard NickName tag?

-strathglass

Well, it must be a TMG bug because all other programs I use do not exhibit this issue.

I will have to check if there is a way to submit TMG bug reports (never did that before).

Thanks.

-Stratglass

Mike's approach is reasonable, and I have used it at times.

But I would still like to know how to use the nickname tag:

there is no name field on the nickname tag: what is it you folks see for that tag and why does my tag look different?

Here is what I see:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/emmachisholm/4964140525/

-Strathglass

I am now running TMG7 on a Windows7 system.

The problem is when entering data into a tag, the keyboard is not obeying my locale settings (US English).

E.G. - other funny symbols are entered instead of @ or single quote ' ... anyone have any ideas what the issue is?

Regards,

Strathglass.

It certainly isn't obvious to me.

The only thing I can assume is that I am supposed to edit the sentence and change "Nickname" to the desired nickname, but that just seems ridiculous!

Can anyone advise?

Regards,

Strathglass.

OK, good info all.

Thanks for the help in figuring this one out.

-Strathglass.

I think I have two issues here:

#1 - Terry is right, I have the backup configured to include external exhibits, so that explains the backup size (but more on this below).

#2 - It is still not clear though that the audio files are external:

I have two ways to see exhibit info:

[a] there is an area at the lower right of the exhibit log that displays info about the exhibit, and

on the info tab of the exhibit's properties window.

Here is what I see using these two methods:

FOR AN INTERNAL EXHIBIT (an image, 2nd exhibit for the person):

[a] shows:

"2 (Internal), (1-15)/15

person 1:3"

shows

"IMAGE

********************

Internal image file

Full name c:\USERS\STRATHGLASS\APPDATA\LOCAL\TEMP\TMG422098729\E_000013.jpg

(etc)"

FOR AN EXTERNAL EXHIBIT (an image, 1st and primary exhibit for the person):

[a] shows

"1 (External), (1-15)/15

person 1:3"

shows

"IMAGE

********************

External image file

Full name c:\strathglass_genealogy\exhibits\PHOTO-SMITH-John circa 1935.jpg"

(etc)"

FOR AN AUDIO EXHIBIT (9th exhibit for the person):

[a] shows

"9, (1-15)/15

person 1:3"

shows

"AUDIO

********************

26,741,239 bytes, 13 Aug 2010 20:24:34

c:\strathglass_genealogy\exhibits\MISC-SMITH-John oral recording circa 1959.mp3"

So you see, it is not obvious for the audio exhibit (unlike the other two cases) whether the exhibit is internal or external.

However the path info does support the notion that it is external. Shouldn't the info per [a] and support this like it does for image exhibits?

Finally, how are images in a backup handled? Specifically, what happens when I do a restore to those images? (Never had to do a restore.)

Regards,

Strathglass