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  1. Hello Michael Thank you for going to so much trouble to recreate. Yes this is what is happening. I hear what you are saying and even if I didn't have a marriage date for those that were married several times they would appear as husband 1 and child number 1 in a desc chart instead of last. I understand that. I have been looking through my current out put file trying to find someone with the same criteria. I could only find an illegitimate child but my research stops there and I don't know if the mother remarried so I cannot duplicate. I did find one example in my own family line whereby the chart came out correct. (this line was first done in version 4) But there was no children to a subsequent marriage so I added a child. and it is as it should be. The only difference is that the illegitimate child had married and had a family. Since I cannot cut and paste it here and it is a real family I will email have both charts to Terry as he suggested. Well he suggested one. So I am wondering why the same rules to this new chart are different. The illegitimate child is attached to the mother and the new husband and child are last in the descendancy line as they should be. I have lots of old charts I have printed but I really cannot go through them all to look for one. I tried to recreate in version 7 but I couldn't get a report because I have a 64 bit system. I appreciate the workaround but it is a real nightmare and the families wont like it that is why I am so sure that this hasn't happened before because I send people their charts to check and I have sent out hundreds.. Is it possible that TMGW 8 no longer works with new support software? I will ask Terry to send the "real " family privately to you. He will post the one I recreated but it is the same as you described with yours. Thank you very much Regards Kay .
  2. Hi Terry or anyone I recreated a small family as an example of what the desc indented chart looks like with an illegitimate child so you can see that it is not clear. I want to paste it but cant do it. I used "paste to word".The window open and I pasted but it is not showing. Please advise if this is correct and why it is not working please?. kaye
  3. Hi Terry You are a legend. I set it to default and all is well. However I got the "unknown spouse" but unticked it in options and I am back to the original problem. The illegitimate first child is still last and has a gap in the vertical descendant line. (where "unknown spouse" would have been) It is not clear who she belongs to. If I leave in "unknown spouse" you can see she is an illegitimate child of the mother. I have never had this problem before, Normally she would be linked to the mother and be a first child even without a father then the defacto and two other children linked to both of them. You said above that unknown spouse is about descendants but I use these as my main charts and have never seen this before. Even by leaving in unknown spouse she is still shown as the last child despite being born before the others. The mother now wants to change the illegitimate child's name to the defacto's name. Currently she is the biological child of the mother. I would have to link her as what? adoption? and add the defacto as the principal? I don't like this idea as it is not correct. If I change her name I would usually put Brown (mothers name and then defacto ie Merriman. Brown/Merriman I just hope it doesn't happen to any of the others and at this stage there are so many like this that I wouldn't recognise them. Sorry Cheers Kaye
  4. Hi Terry I have decided I must reinstall my programme. I have Jim Bryant's answer to this task.. I will just wait to see if you confirm that this is what I should do. I have it already in my downloads and have serial number and unlock code it I need it. I have moved my latest back ups to another usb drive. Regards Kaye
  5. Hi Terry I have been through it again. I has already summed up what I have done but I did more trouble shooting and towards the end of this email I came up with what may be a software problem. Yes the father is attached to each of his children as bio-dtr and bio- son and the family view is as it should be.. In the family group they show as mother and father correctly for two of the children and mother has three children. . I also did a descendant chart in the father as and it shows only the father and his children two children, No mother. I then did a chart with mother as focus person and she is only linked to her three children. So it is the marriage tag that seems to be the problem. Yes the defacto tag group shows is in the marriage group. In the general tab it is also in the marriage group. Looking in the tag type list the marriage filter is greyed out. The type is custom and tag group is marriage. So I looked at altering this to marriage via tags and the only marriage tag is M (<M) This should be an upside down symbol I cannot create. Normally there are two marriage tags I think. So I went back to the main screen and used the marriage tag (+ marriage tag) and made it principal in both husband and wife view. I checked the tag entry and there are linked. as married.. I deleted defacto and it is still the same. If I do a descendant chart with the husband or the mother only one parent shows up. So I tested the descendant chart for her parents and only one parent shows up. I then tested my own family and several others and only on marriage partner shows up. So maybe software. I went into out put files and the charts I did late June are all ok. My computer went in to get a new hard drive a week ago. It was ok bit it was on its way out. . I took it in early so a full image of my computer could be put on an external hard drive. My computer tech also did some trouble shooting but I didn't want to be caught with a hard drive crash. In my last clean and maintenance my tech said I may need a new hard drive and he did an image of my computer then. Yesterday I went into to a view I had never down before and I couldn't close it. I ended up with lots of messages and still couldn't close it. I tried to use task manager but there were so many files there that I had never heard of. I closed the computer down. I went into repair in master Genealogist and it wouldn't repair because the source is not available. I then went into another project and it is the same. I guess I will I have to reinstall my programmes?. Will the back ups also contain the problem? The second project will be ok as I haven't used it for a long time. Terry I just tried sample family and the same problem. Kindest regards
  6. Hi Terry Yes Dah!I woke up that they are connected by partner tag and he was not listed in descendant chart at all! .Sorry didn't tell you this. I have changed this to de facto and still not coming out as the father of his 2 children. In the general tab it shows up as de facto and abbreviation as de. and the tag type is "custom". However it seems that the "filter" had been marriage but it was greyed out, Is this the reminder? I get this message that there is no reminder tag when I click on de facto icon in the "tag entry" screen. Terry I have to get this correct because I cannot just change one when I eventually print out my descendants chart at the end of each family. I should be able to edit this rather than disconnect and put back in again shouldn't I? . But if I have to I will. The descendancy narrative does not mention the partner either. I used both parents to create the reports. His did not show the partner either. So as you say he is not linked. So is all about tag types. I always use partner and it has never been a problem. I just want to add that I don't use the sentence feature. I do this manually when I write my story. I have been experimenting but still cannot match them as parents of the two children they have together .This is very strange.
  7. Box charts

    I hope someone can help. Using version 8 UK edition I talked about this before but outsourcing now. I want to put a simple box chart for every family (chapter) in my book. I have looked at all the free templates etc. Heritage has the style I would like but you have to use the programme. I had one done in excel because I have families with 15-16 children. Also I have families with a few children. I am outsourcing this work because I don't have the skills or time, but have changed my mind about the style.. I need 2.5 - 3cm margins. TMG box chart is the closest to what I want in terms of design. At the end of each chapter I will enclose a descendant chart. Question. What skill set should I look for when employing someone to do the charts?. A template may work for some families but I think I will need many done manually for each family. Is this better done in word, excel or graphics?. Who would have the skills to do these quickly? It will be provided to my typesetter as a jpeg file. I gave my contractor a family group sheet to work from. This seems to be the best way of providing info. Kind regards
  8. Box charts

    Hi Michael Word has a lot of design tools I hadn't used before. It took me all day but I managed to create enough for a contractor to set up a template. cheers
  9. Box charts

    Thanks Michael. That is a lot of work on your site. Yes wouldn't post. so did it again. Slow.
  10. Firstly I have just read that TMG is discontinued!! I want to see examples of charts. I have avoided these as I only have a small page to produce. A4 with margins set by the typesetter. I only want basic chart for each family showing children and their spouses and number of children.. Most of my families have over 15 children. So before each family I want to provide a outline. I have tried excel but can't fit them in on the one page. I have also tried word but that is harder to set up with lines in columns. Whatever chart I use needs to be provided in PDF format. I am in the sample at the moment and I thought I would be able to get more information but it is the same. So where can I see an example of each chart please? I see there are videos but want to see what they look like without going through this process. I just found report samples thanks . None can be adjusted because of the number of children and my page limitations. But if anyone has any ideas using another programme I would appreciate the advice please
  11. Examples of charts

    I cant see my reply. Yes two colour. Basically I said this is helpful to others. have been in touch with typesetting company and they would rather set the colour and I believe it may change by printer. I will post when I get my examples back to let others know about dpi of the lines. I am sending examples based on the options in TMG. Cheers
  12. Thank you so much Virginia. I am sure these links will also help others. I eventually spoke to the company who are doing my typesetting (mine is away). Because I only have two colours she would rather set the colour herself. I was lucky to find a printer who did an extra colour at a much lower cost. However the shades often change at the printing step with a variation of the colour. As for dpi for the lines I have to wait a week. I will post to let others know, as this is something I had never thought about. When I get it back I will know which example was best. I am sending a few based on TMG OPTIONS. kind regards
  13. Examples of charts

    Virginia I always get an error when I l "ike this" and when I try again it says I have used up my quota so sorry cant leave feedback. sorry.
  14. Examples of charts

    Hi Virginia. Thank you for these links. I googled printing and pixels and enough to do your head in. I am waiting for my typesetter to get back. I know about pixels in my photos. The colours in version 8 are different than the example. Just have a choice of colours as in word. However I see where to increase the pixels once I know what my typesetter wants . I will do the descendants charts with adjustment in pixels and use the template that was made for me in excel at the beginning of chapter. More work. but....I can out source it. I don't use all functions in TMG. The typesetter prints a lot of charts in her publication that are done in excel. I think this is the way to go with so many children. I need 3cm margins all around to fit into the designers template. As for FGS. Example, useful for info taking out header and footer. Then for the rest is very easy to adjust in word rather than TMG. Still an option. The dimensions of the book is A4 with 3cm margins side and top. Thank for your help regards
  15. Examples of charts

    Hi Virginia. I am using these as well at the end of each family. This is just to put opposite each family chapter and very basic. Just a snapshot, albeit I would have liked something fancy. There is no space for anything else. I am looking at 16 children in one family and 15 in several others. We have come up with an excel in landscape with two columns and to number each child and bdm's and spouse. But if I do go to family group sheets do you know anything about the dpi of the lines? I also have to find out how to make the descendants lines bolder. regards
  16. Examples of charts

    Hello Jim Thank you for your reply. Yes I just wanted to see if any are samples and as I said in an edit I did find it in TMG. I have put this link above in favourites. I didn't want to go through all the videos to see the end result. Also I have too many people in my lines. I wasn't able to solve my problem but may get some ideas as I go through it. IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT LOW RESOLUTION DESCENDANT LINES. But one important thing I found out from one of the links in above, is that the dpi of the lines is only 96 or 76 dpi.(I forget) I am having my book professionally printed and photos must be a min of 300 dpi so internet photos have this same low resolution so must be checked. But I never thought about my descendants indented charts. These will have to be changed as well. Invaluable information hidden away. Now what about family group sheets Jim? If I decide to go this way is there anything I need to know about dpi of the charts. I imagine they may be problematic. I will have to change the margins too.. Cheers
  17. I have forgotten this simple thing. The children show both mother and father. But I can only see the father in the person view. I have husband and wife showing in a family view when I look at husband and again when I look at the wife. How can I marry them up again please? Their numbers are consecutive and were done many years ago. Silly I know but...... please help
  18. Thank you. Brain into gear and found it. That's age.
  19. Hi Suddenly my indented chart is showing "par" instead of marriage and no names of marriage. Checked option tags and all ok. Something has changed and I am only printing charts and odd bit of data entry. Can someone help please?
  20. Hello Terry Thank you very much for this. I didn't look at the abbreviation!. It was on par. I changed to m. How would this have happen? Anyway I have leaned something new and I didn't know that par could be changed to appear in the chart. I should have known this. Kind regards Kaye
  21. Hello Terry Thank you. I went into a dozen random marriages and bought up the tag entry window and looked in the tag type list. It is set at marriage Marriage ( with symbol that I cant create here ) M). That is my only marriage option. Partner is not selected. . What I cannot understand is that it seems almost impossible to create a partner tag in this type of chart as it is not an option. Family group sheet is ok and there is no problem with descendancy indented narrative report. All marriages showing as they should be. I went to programs and tried to do a repair and it wants to install. I also did reports for many different families and it is the same problem. I cant understand how it could suddenly change and I have never seen this problem in over 10 years using TMG from the release of version 4. (Nevertheless despite using the software for all this time I am not an expert). Is there any other way to look at marriage tags? I also went into tools and looked at the tag list and only the one type of marriage tag. Many thanks
  22. to All The descendant chart does not print out "par". The default option is marriage and I cannot see how this can be changed. I have never seen this before and looked at past questions. kaye
  23. Hello Michael Do you mean tags in report option. If so there is only an option for "All". If not then the primary tags are marriage. This is my problem thank you Kaye
  24. Hi Jim Thanks for your reply. Yes I did that and it only leaves out burials. This report only does BDM and Burial I just did it again.