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Hi All, Just started playing with windows 10 Voice Recognition with the intention of using it with TMG 9. However hit a snag right at the start, if you "start listening" TMG promptly closes, no error, no warning, just vanishes. Has anybody come across this? Or have W10 & TMG9 happily working with voice recognition?

Hi all, Just recently TMG performance has bombed, most noticeably opening exhibits but is actually quite slow at redrawing any of the gui. No changes have been made, all I can link this with is last Windows (10) update. Have gone through normal file maintenance. Tested on a very small project & the problem is the same as on my main large project. Anybody else seen this? - if anybody else is still using TMG............ Dave

it doesn't attempt to copy the pjc until TMG closed. What files are you particularly concerned about?

Yes, I had misinterpreted the message/functionality of the check box. John got me thinking on the rationale of not backing up images with TMG internal backup - "can cause the SQZ file to exceed the maximum size of a ZIP file." Using 7-zip I zipped up a copy of the images directory and the compressed file is 10.0 GB (10,756,108,301 bytes to be accurate ) which is way bigger than a zip file can manage and I guess foxpro db are limited to 2Gb So the error is more a file limitation than an error as such. & as far as being related to failure to import into Family Historian a complete red herring. The uncompressed directory is 11.2 GB (12,026,769,408 bytes) so indeed the compression doesn't achieve very much at all.

Hi John yes - I don't really use internal TMG backups at all, it was just that this seemed to be identifying an issue that may (or may not) be related to an attempt to import into Family Historian to have a look at that. I have read over the last few days a several pieces of advice which concurs with you. I do have separate back up regimes. (ISP Cloud solution & SmartSync Pro for local processes.) In step 3 of the backup process, under project items > Project data files you see "external exhibits", hovering over that it tells you it has found x links to external exhibits and specifies a database project_I_.dbf. I had presumed that this was backing up the links not the image itself. But as I do not actively use the process I haven't really looked at it in any detail. However if it is backing up the image then I agree this is totally pointless as they are external to the project and are backed up as part of my data resiliency program. But having found this OLE error am now a bit obsessed with identifying the object in question. I did look at inserting OLE objects some time ago but can't remember why or where. I don't think there is anything that would identify the object in your handy utility and I recreated a second site site (local, I don't have a published version) and that worked fine I also enabled thumbnails but the db they are stored in went over size limitation and broke. Replaced it with backup copy and reduced the thumbnail size to just 50. Again this ran OK so in both cases each and every exhibit would have been touched. I was hoping one or both would identify the problem object. The performance issue opening the exhibits window seems better now. I had used performance manager to look at running process, and as this had been going over several days possibly ever since the last W10 update I was concerned something more fundamental was at work. Nvidia graphics driver updated recently as well. However all seems well now. I can look at Family Historian using another project, I just have this OLE error nagging at me. Dave

Hi Jim, Diane, Oddly seems to be better today. Carried out routine maintenance (again) which included this time a backup of the project. I rarely do an internal TMG back up of the project as its is backed up on the fly to cloud, on PC shutdown to two external devices and once a week to a back up PC (which in turn is backed up to external device prior to this) so effectively I have a current backup, daily back ups, weekly backup and a two week old back up. I may be a little paranoid about data loss. However there is some problem with the TMG Backup when you include the links to external files - OLE Exception error c0000005 or c00000fd which cause the backup to fail. This does not impact normal bau operation of TMG. This problem is also present with the project daily backups, I haven't checked older. Dave

Hi Jim, Thanks for response. Using OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Version 10.0.17763 Build 17763 Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz, 4001 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s) Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 32.0 GB Total Physical Memory 31.9 GB Available Physical Memory 25.5 GB Total Virtual Memory 36.7 GB Available Virtual Memory 28.8 GB Page File Space 4.75 GB Name NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Adapter RAM (1,048,576) bytes Driver Version 26.21.14.3064 Resolution 3440 x 1440 x 59 hertz Bits/Pixel 32 Has been fine on this PC since project moved to it some years ago Just in the last few days its been really slow when opening the Media page. And having noticed that you then start to realise everything else is also a bit slow. Main project has just under 10K people & the external exhibit directory is some 11Gb containing 13,711 files in 481 sub directories. Have tried tiny projects and they suffer the same issue, but they are pointing at the same exhibit directory which may or may not be relevant. Dave

yes was going to roll back but first tried installer from site straight over the top all OK now

Anybody managed to get this resolved - same problem for me on a TMG instigated update to TMG 9.04

I am just having a look at 9 and am unable to set preference for primary tags to bold - it just sticks using the * preferences > Program Options > Tag Box Is this because its the trial version?

I have reset the preferences to default and then was able to modify back to the way I like them and this has worked - although the age column intermittently unselects itself Dave

Totally agree with Wal. Is there any movement in this direction? Dave

Hi I have been battling with creating meaningful, readable decendancy narrative. Sentance construction is OK. I have been concatenating sentences such you have one sentance for where sombody was, there age and any medical condition. This works but the sentences are not in a consistent order so the age is usually tacked on the the census wherabout but the medical condition usally tacks on to the occupation. How can I move the medical condition so it tacks on after the age? The tag order in the person view has the medical condition right after age Dave

Hi smee again. I had decided on a sperate census occupation tag...but was then thinking about the occupations you get from birth certificate or marriage certificate. Started thinking about roles. I've added a Father's Occupation role and constructed a sentence for that on the standard Birth Tag. [:CR:][:CR:]At the time of his son [PF]'s birth <[DD]>, [FATH] was a <[L7]> living at <[L]> I ummed and ahed about where to record the actual data - L7 is not included in L and is first "unused" line, however the memo field might be better. This lets me add both bits of data we glean about a father from the birth certificate. You can do the same thing for marriage. Which of course then starts me thinking for an occupation role for the census. I can get the data entered in one tag, see the data in the person view, and it prints. Still playing with this though Dave

Ah, OK it doesn't do what I thought it did Set Sort Dates will not change existing sort dates, regardless of how they were set. As a result, it can not be used to alter sort dates set by a previous use of Set Sort Dates.

Hi, The memo is far more poweul than I had first thought and allows you to tailor text per source. However again if I was going to use this method I should have used from the start. I have found you can use John Cardinal's utility to order sort date, just experimenting cautiously with this at the moment. TMG 8 I gather has some new reporting tools & you can use in 64bt mode on W7 - do we have any ~ release date known? Dave

Hi yes after alot if fidling arounf I have decided the only way to get this to my satisfaction is to split the occupation tag up per source which is an awful lot of work. So I am just contemplating that now. This is really to get the wording correct rather than the order. It would be nice if you didn't have to manually enter the sort order to acheive the order you want for tags. What would be good is a sort option in the person view - an up arrow down arrow for example - the sort order field itself is of no intrest to the user of the application. Dave

Thanks for that Terry - yes all the census events including the occupation had the same date. I have now ordered the occupation to the day after the census and now we get the census location, age, medical condition and marrital status all in one sentence in that order followed by the occupation as a seperate sentence.. This isn't too much of a chore as only a few people have medical conditions recorded Ideally I would like seperate occupation tags 1841 Census Occupation etc etc instead of just Occupation then I could roll the whole census sentence into one, it wouldn't even matter if was in incorrect order. Could then use different wording that makes more sense reference where the data came from. Also perhaps a seperate tag for occupations as provided by marriage certs and baptism records. However tying to split the occupation tag up into these would have to be done manually and there is just too much data for that. I could even explore the possibilities of roles now so the census sentence includes or mentions the whole family but again should have done this at the start. TMG is a bit of a chicken and egg thing, You really should plan out what you want and how to get it before you start - but before you start you don't know how to use it. Dave

How can you get both Primary and Non Primary events to show in an Ancestor Box chart report? For example I want to include Birth place & date, Baptism place and date, Marriage place and date, Death place and date, Burial place and date. But because the Baptism tag belongs to the Birth tag group one or other has to be Primary hence the other data does not display. Changing both tags to non primary results in neither printing, therefore only Primary events are inclused in the Ancestor Box Chart. I have gone through the chart options but I cannot see anywhere where you might change this.

Mike, Is there a project size maximum though? - disregard number of people. Why do I ask, Because Family Tree Maker (2006) has reached a maximum file size which I for one did not know existed. Although searching the web has revealed others who have hit exactly the same issue Once your FTM file reaches 2Gb you can no longer add pictures to the scrapbook functionality. I use this feature to record source documentation such as bmd certificates & census images. The technical help at FTM actually advise no more than 1.7Gb. I have imported the FTM file into Master Genealogist 6 - trial I'm playing with & all went OK & I noted it created thumbnails as it went quoting original file size. Anyway that worked & I was able to add further documentation. I then started looking through features & saw that you could change the thumbnail size from 150 pixels - so I changed to 250 just to see what happens. about a third to half way through it came up with a no more room error message - can't recall actual wording but will ateempt to reproduce error when I have a minute. Which leads me to believe that MG also has a max file size although I can only guess at it at the moment - currently the project size is similar to FTM file size i.e ~2Gb. Dave - wondering what software to switch to