MMj

Hi,

I am having the same problem that Dave reported a month ago. As of today, I can't log into any TMG project, including the Sample. I am using ver. 7.03 with Windows XP media center edition. Everything has been running fine until now.

I am getting the following error message when I attempt to open TMG in any project:

OLE Error code 0x80040154: Class not registered 48 TMGAPPOBJDOFORM

The only thing out of the ordinary that I have done during the past few days is to uninstall TMG v6 that I am no longer using. During the uninstall I was prompted about keeping some DLL files if I was uncertain as to whether they were necessary for any other apps, and I elected to keep them.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how about fixing the problem?

Thanks

Mike D.

Yes...I now have version 7.01 and the problem is still not fixed. I wonder why such an annoying problem is so hard to fix?

Hi,

I'm not a TMG developer, but I have done my share of database development in my day, and I suspect that the answer to your question is probably in a word you used in your post just before this one...

"randomly"

Random errors are typically a great deal harder to fix than readily repeatable ones. If a programmer can replicate a problem over and over again, the source of the problem can be tracked down and repaired. But random errors can lead a programmer on a merry chase.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Hi

Have any of you noticed any unusual settings in Preferences after using the "Reset Defaults" button on the main Preferences screen?

I have been working on a presentation about using TMG preferences for the RUG, Roots Users Group of Arlington, VA. As part of my preparation for the presentation, I loaded TMG v7.01 on an XP laptop, using the latest download from the WG site. I then created a Test project and opened it. I did this because I needed to see what the preference defaults were "right out of the box", so to speak. I then went into each of the 22 various preference screens and reset every default to something different. I then saved my changes and exited from TMG. Then I went back into TMG and opened my Test project, and all of the preference options reflected the changes that I had made, as I expected they would.

Then I clicked the "Reset Defaults" button, selected both, and OK. And here is where my troubles began. After what I thought was a full reset of my defaults, I found that A GREAT MANY of the preferences had not been reset, and still reflected the changes that I had made. The following is a list of the preference options that did not change back to the initial default.

General - Old style date range: Both starting & ending year contained the new years that I had set them to.

Startup and Exit - Show Welcome window: Did not change back

Startup and Exit - Check the website for an update every ___ days: Did not change back

Startup and Exit - Check for messages every ___ days: Did not change back

Data Entry - Minimum font size: Did not change back

Data Entry - Maximum font size: Did not change back

Data Entry - Advanced - Place labels: Did not change back

Data Entry - Advanced - Name labels: Did not change back

Data Entry - Spell Checker - Did not change back

Data Entry - Use tabbed version of Tag Entry - Did not change back

New People - Surname: Did not change back

New People - Given name: Did not change back

New People - Birth Date - Years are within ___ years: Did not change back

New People - Disqualify parents, children and siblings: Did not change back

New People - Display warning in red: Did not change back

Item Tips - Show Item Tips on Associates list: Did not change back

Exhibits - New image exhibits should be added as: Did not change back

Exhibits - In the Exhibit log, when an external image exhibit is missing: Did not change back

Slideshow - Self-optimize: Did not change back

Slideshow - Default Slide duration (sec): Did not change back

Lists - All worked as expected

Prompts - Prompt to search for embedded citations when deleting a source: Gave appearance of no radio button selected

Warnings - Warn when selecting multiple witnesses using Simple Picklist: Did not change back

Project Explorer - Enable Drag-n-Drop: Did not change back

Tag Box - Undated tags sorted: Did not change back

Tag Box - Identify Primary Event with: Did not change back

Tag Box - Show History events for unlinked people: Did not change back

Custom Styles - Name style: I set it to custom; it did not change back

Custom Styles - Place style: I set it to custom; it did not change back

Reports - Prompt to open file output: Did not change back

Reports - Flag changes update the Last Edited date: Did not change back

Reports - Preferred output types: I selected only 2; it did not change back to all

Colors - Merge Candidates: Neither Left or right colors changed back

Colors - Lists: Did not change back

Colors - Window backgrounds: Did not change back

New Project Defaults - Source categories: Did not change back

New Project Defaults - Short place template: Did not change back

New Project Defaults - Default country: Did not change back

Other - All worked as expected

General - All worked as expected

Colors - All worked as expected

Places - Default country: Did not change back

Advanced - All worked as expected

Other - All worked as expected

Am I doing something wrong here??

Mike

Hi Dean

Ditto on what Michael and Joan have said. I have a Palm LifeDrive with GedStar Pro loaded on it and there have been times when it has been of great use. I can slip it in my jacket pocket and take it anywhere. And, like Joan, I use it for reference at times when I don't have access to my pc, like in a graveyard, for instance, and the fact that I can't do data entry on it is no problem for me, because it would be a real pain to enter data on a device that small, even if I could.

Mike

I created a tag for the 1910 census by copying then editing a tag for the 1900 census.

 

Second Site and TMG Utility report that the name of the new tag is "census19001". All the output from TMG7 and Second site is fine - it seems the internal representation of the 1910 census tag remembers the linkage to the 1900 census tag.

 

This makes it hard when I'm selecting which census tags I want Second Site to process.

 

Is there any way to force TMG to represent the tag as "census1910"?

 

TIA ... John.

Hi John,

I don't yet have Second Site, but I do have TMG Utility. I tried to replicate what you reported a few minutes ago, and everything seems to be working OK for me.

When you created the copy, TMG would have automatically given it the name of "census19001". When you edited it to make your changes, is there any chance you forgot to change the name in the label to "census1910"?

Mike

Mike,

The only time changing the name of one of the standard tags will affect you is if whollygenes, or a beta tester needs to fix the underlying database. I changed mine ages ago to B-Birth, M-Marriage, D-Death, so that all my Birth type tags would sort together, all the Death type tags would sort together, etc. Once I had to have the database fixed, and the person fixing it couldn't find my standard tags in the lists. Once I told them my names for them, it was not a problem. Undoing it is as simple as doing it. YOu just re-rename them. <G>

Thanks for the info, Teresa.

Mike D.

I used TMG's slideshow manager for the first time today and created a small test slideshow with 21 family photos in it. I saved it under the name "FamilyPhotos". It plays fine through the slideshow manager.

Then I clicked "Export", and in the resulting dialog I checked "Include Slideshow Viewer" and selected an empty folder on my C: drive to export to. The path to the folder was C:\SlideshowTest. Then I clicked "Export".

When I opened the SlideshowTest folder after the export I have two sub-folders within it: OCX and SOURCE. The SOURCE folder contains the images as I would have expected. There is also a group of files in the SlideshowTest folder. One of them is the application tmgss.exe.

I double-clicked on tmgss.exe and immediately got an error message.

During the cancel process I also got the following two messages.

I have so far been unable to run the slideshow outside of the TMG slideshow manager. I am running under Windows XP MediaCenter Edition. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Update - I have now tried to create this test slideshow on two separate PCs, one under XP Media and the other under XP home. I then tried exactly the same set of steps using TMG v6 on the same two PCs, and under v6 I was able to execute tmgss.exe and view the test slideshow with no problem whatsoever.

Thanks

Mike D.

Hi,

I noticed that TMG v7 has a Preferences window with options to allow new image exhibits to be added as:

1. Links to External Files

2. Internal Exhibits

or

3. Ask each time

How do I go about seeing what this does in practice? For example, if I set the Preference to "Ask each time", at what what point in adding a new image am I supposed to be "asked"?

By convention, I have thus far added all of my exhibits as External, mostly out of space and backup time considerations. But so far, when I toy about with this preference option my new exhibits are still appearing as "External", regardless of which of the 3 radio buttons I choose.

So I am obviously doing something wrong. Any ideas as to what that might be?

Thanks

Mike D.

Thanks, Terry. It all makes sense now.

Mike D.

Terry,

Upon reflection, I guess the only issue is that it enables you to create a situation through re-naming that down the road can be quite difficult to go back and un-do. But since you have to go out of your way to cause the problem in the first place, it probably isn't really the problem that it first seemed to be to me. And being mono-lingual and with ancestors who are English, English and more English, I hadn't even considered the renaming necessity for other languages.

Thanks

Mike D.

John & Terry,

Your comments about the standard tags that have a Ctrl-Key, such as Ctrl-M, associated with them brings up something I noticed a short while ago that TMG will allow you to do that is very dangerous.

I was somewhat surprised to see that TMG will allow you to edit not only the sentence structures of standard tags, as it certainly should, but also that you can edit the standard tag names themselves (which I'm not too sure is a good thing).

Thus, the OP of this topic could in theory play a shell-game with his tag names:

1. Change the name of his Marriage1 tag to something else, such as MarriageTemp.

2. Change the name of his Marriage tag to Marriage1.

3. Create a new tag called Marriage.

4. Copy the sentence structure from Marriage1 to Marriage to give it the original Marriage sentence structure.

5. Copy the sentence structure from MarriageTemp to Marriage1 to give it the original Marriage1 sentence structure.

6. Delete the MarriageTemp tag.

The result of these changes would be that Marriage1 would now be the tag with "Ctrl-M" associated with it.

However, it would also mean that every tag in the data that was originally named Marriage would now have been renamed Marriage1, and every tag that was originally named Marriage1 would now have been renamed Marriage.

It has taken me longer than I intended to reach the point here, which is, that I am not entirely sure that it is good that TMG allows the standard tags to be renamed. I actually stumbled across this by accident some time ago when I was in the process of creating new tags like Birth-Alt, and managed to rename my Birth tag somewhere along the line. Then I was really surprised when the Birth-Alt tag appeared every time I pressed Ctrl-B, rather than the Birth tag. It then took me a while to unscramble it all.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Hi

I have been tweaking my preferences over the past couple of days, and I am mystified as to what the minimum and maximum memo font size fields in data entry preferences actually DO.

I have tried fiddling around with them in conjunction with fiddling around with text in some of my memo fields, but so far, I can't see that they accomplish anything.

Could one of you TMG Gurus please enlighten me?

Thanks,

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Hi

I typically do not use either the automated update checking feature or the "Check for Update" option on the Help menu. Since I visit the WG site pretty much daily, I just keep an eye out for available updates while I am there. But, this evening I executed the option on the Help menu and met with the following:

1. TMG closed.

2. I was then presented with the check for update dialog.

3. I then hit the "Next" button and got the "Update Checked" message which informed me that I was running the latest version of TMG.

4. I hit "Ok" and was left at my Windows desktop.

This brings me to my question. The TMG help text for "Check for Program Update" states:

When the update is complete, TMG will automatically close and reopen.

My system did not perform an update because there was none available. So, does TMG not re-open the application unless an update was performed, and if so, is this by design?

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Thanks, Jim.

Mike D.

Hi,

I have just noticed that if I go to "Preferences", "Program Options", "General" and change my date format to something different, that the dates in my details window reflect the change right away, but the dates in the open associates window do not. Closing the associates window and re-opening it does not make the change either. But if I make a change within the associates window (i.e. change the sort order or apply a filter), or exit from TMG and then re-enter the application, the date format in the associates window changes to match the format that has been set in preferences.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

I would like to know what are the Pro's and Con's of Internal and External exhibits? What are most of you using and why? I like the fact that with internal exhibits a copy is saved in the database and when you backup your database you have all your exhibits and data in the sqz file.

I use external exhibits exclusively. I back up my TMG project at least daily, and sometimes more often than that. As the number of images attached to the project grows, internal exhibits can create sqz files that are truly enormous. Also, TMG offers a parameter during the backup process which allows me to include external exhibits in the backup if I wish. I use that once in a while and copy the resulting huge sqz file to CD for safekeeping.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Hi Bjorn,

hi Jesper,

 

issue has been reported.

 

Please hold on.

Will get back to you ASAP.

Hi

Does anyone out there know anything about the current status of this "String is too long to fit" issue? I never actually encountered it in v6, but it has happened occasionally ever since I upgraded to v7. It happens to me in exactly the same manner as the OP reported. That is, once in a while, when I enter TMG, I get this same message. If I hit "Ignore", TMG seems to execute just fine, and I don't seem to have any problem with file corruption. If I immediately exit from TMG, and then reenter, I don't get the message. I am running under XP, and the project is located in a structure within the "My Documents" folder. The full path is fairly long, but still a little bit under 128 characters. What really has me confused is the occasional nature of the problem.

I have not yet posted a message about this problem on the v7 board.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Thanks, Jim.

Mike

Hi

This may be a known issue, but I didn't see any mention of it in the forum.

When I add a citation to my tags, I sometimes click into the top of the citation box, and then press F3, rather than using the new conveniently located buttons. This works very well for me. However, today when I was adding a new person (through the Add Person window), my finger trembled when I clicked into the citation box and I accidentally dbl-clicked rather than a single click. That gave me a TMG error message:

Record is out of range. 5FRMADDPERSON.CNTSOURCES1LSTSOURCES.DBLCLICK

The button options were Abort, Retry, Ignore. It doesn't cause any major problem, because it only happens when, by dbl-clicking in the field, I am performing an action that I am not supposed to be performing anyway. But I thought I would report it, because I can replicate it over and over again, and it does not happen in the citation block of other TMG forms where I have tried the same actions.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

I go through this every time I upgrade. How do I bring all my projects into v7 without losing all my customized features?

Hi

The instructions in Bob Velke's pinned message at the top of this forum worked very well for me.

Pinned: Important Upgrade Instructions!

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

On behalf of the Roots Users Group of Arlington, VA (RUG), I would like to extend the thanks of the entire group to Bob Velke for the wonderful presentation on TMG 7 functionality that he gave us this morning. Judging from comments made to me by some of the other members, I was not the only member of the group who became aware today of the power of some of the new features that I hadn't even noticed yet. The presentation was comprehensive and full of helpful information for TMG users of all levels of experience. As always, Bob answered literally dozens of ad-hoc questions from group members during his presentation.

Thanks, Bob! We all look forward to the next time when we can schedule you to talk to our group.

Mike Daugherty

Program Chairman

Roots Users Group of Arlington, VA

1st message: Visual Fox Pro has encountered a problem and needs to close.

 

Then: Fatal error: exception code C0000005@2008.01.24 10:41:47 pm Error log file: C:\windows\system32\vfp9rerr.log called from – tmgmain line 531 {c:\Program Files\The Master Genealogist v7\tmg\programs\tmgmain.prg c:\program files\the master genealogist v7\tmg7.exe}

I have been encountering the same error message intermittently (perhaps as often as once per day during heavy usage sessions). But in my case it has not always been tied directly to clicking in the Siblings window. Although I have encountered the problem under those circumstances, it has happened to me most often when I have clicked on a name in the PE (tied to the other TMG data windows) to select an individual, and then dbl-clicked on a tag (of no consistent type) in the Details window to open it. Following the fatal error, I am left at the Windows desktop and have to re-open TMG.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Is this true for every focus person? Or just some? Does the number of individuals in the Siblings window matter?

 

There is an issue (that I'm not clear about) and this should be fixed in v7.01. Other than that, navigation from the Siblings window works perfectly for me.

Hi Jim

I have been having a similar issue, but have not reported it because I can never replicate it after it happens. This has been happening to me in the Details window. Occasionally, I find that I when I Dbl-Click on the name of an individual's Father or Mother in the Details window, nothing happens. However, if I then use some other means to move away from the current person, and then come back to him, Dbl-Clicking on his Father or Mother then works fine. But I haven't been able to isolate any common denominator at all:

It doesn't always happen on the same person.

It doesn't seem to matter whether other windows (such as the Project Explorer) are open or not.

My actions prior to this happening have been a wide variety of things.

It does not appear to be linked to something like having had a specific tag open immediately before it happens.

Fortunately, it seems to happen relatively infrequently, and it is easy for me to work around it.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Hi Holly

I don't have any words of wisdon regarding v7 and Vista because I'm not running Vista. I just wanted to try to clarify one statement that you made in your message. The fact that TMG7 is "native" to Vista does not mean that you need to be running under Vista to use it. It will run fine under XP as well. I, and I suspect many other TMG users as well, are currently plugging along quite happily in XP. So, if the only reason that you are upgrading your OS is because you want to use v7, you really don't have to do it.

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland

Hi Tammy

I would think it depends mostly upon what you want to accomplish with the device. I'm not sure what you mean by "large" database. 10,000 people? 100,000 people? I don't actually have a pocket PC. I use a Palm LifeDrive instead, with GedStar Pro installed on it. I've had it for about a year now, and have found it to be a priceless asset, especially at times when it is inconvenient (or just plain impossible) to have my laptop with me. The LifeDrive has a nice big (for a palm device) display and a 4 GB internal hard drive. My database is smallish, perhaps 7,000 people or so, and the device handles it beautifully. The downside of my device is that I can't do data entry into TMG on it, only viewing. In a pinch, I can enter notes in my version of pocket word on the device.

I went the Palm route because the device was simplicity itself to set up, use and maintain. The lack of data entry capability into TMG causes no heartburn for me because I don't care to ever update my TMG database on that device. That would just give me yet another device to try to keep in sync with the main database on the desktop and the backup database on the laptop. And the idea of trying to enter data into a device that small has no appeal for me. But when I bring it out at family reunions during conversations about who is related to who, and things like that, people say "Wow, I want one of those!".

Mike Daugherty

Frederick, Maryland