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Hi if anyone can help, pls. I have TMG v6 Gold (UK). I want to split my main project into two family strands. I want all the info for each strand retained. (Essentially I want one project for my father and his ancestors and one for my mother.) I have tried the process suggested which is to create a List of People with secondary output. When I do this I get a question box inviting me to open/create a .dbf file (this is after I have nominated a new project name for the secndary output).

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You should not be getting a 'question box to open/create a .dbf file'. What is the path and name of the new project you have entered for secondary output?

 

Virginia

Thanks for getting back; I am now trying to reproduce the effect. I select some people in Project Explorer. I then open the report List of People and check the 'select from Project Explorer'. I select the Options tab and in the Secondary Output tab I select "Create New Project". At this point I tried to name a file (eg ETtest.pjc) and a path to the directory where I keep all my TMG reports (it's a path in My Docs). At this point it does not respond and does not allow me to name a new project. If I leave this blank, and exit the Options tab, I then proceed to create the List. I 'Print & Save' to screen. This then brings up a message asking me to set the path and name for the new project. I type ETtest.pjc and this seems to be accepted, but I get a message saying "no output columns were selected". I click OK to this, hit Print, and I get a confirming message asking if I want to create a new project called ETtest.pjc.tmg project file:pjc_.pjc!!!! So there is a naming error. At this point I get the new window opening asking me to select and open a DBF file. It looks as though I can't name the new project properly?

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You are performing two operations - the primary one is the report, the secondary is a new project based on the report options. Each operation will have its own file name and location as you prefer - perhaps the report with other reports and the project with other projects.

 

Understand that a project contains over 80 files (one of them being the .pjc file). You may want to keep this project in its own directory, perhaps a subdirectory under your Project directory. Try entering the project file name without the .pjc extension, simply ETtest.

 

The message 'no output columns were selected' refers to the List of People report. Reset the report configuration to its default options, using the Delete button under the configuration name on the report definition screen. This will populate the output columns for you. Then reset your secondary output options and run the report again.

 

Virginia

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OK, thank you. Discovered the problem. At the point of confirming the path and name of the new project there were two file extension options: tmg project file:pjc AND *.*. This time I selected the latter and the project was created. As a follow up I have two further questions (sorry!)

 

(1) how do I have the new project take all my customised preferences of the orginal project?

(2) is there any shortcut to capture all one branch of my family (as opposed to idenifying everyone on the Project Explorer?

 

Elmar

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(1) how do I have the new project take all my customised preferences of the orginal project?

 

I thought it did automatically. Are you finding otherwise?

 

 

(2) is there any shortcut to capture all one branch of my family (as opposed to idenifying everyone on the Project Explorer?

 

There are two tools that may make it easier. The most straightforward is to use the Focus Group, which allows you to enter one person, then add their ancestors, descendant, and/or spouses. You can then select some or all of those people and add their ancestors, descendant, and/or spouses, then repeat until you have everyone you want. 

 

 

The difficulty is that a family branch can become very complex - including parents of spouses, their parents, siblings of spouses, children of spouses by other spouses, etc., etc. Including all these remote relatives can be a challenge.

 

May I ask why you want to split your Project? Most experienced users strongly recommend keeping everyone in a single Data Set in a single Project, because 1) you cannot create reports or websites with Second Site that include people from more than one Data Set, 2) families often interconnect in multiple ways, making any split problematic, and 3) it's difficult to maintain customized Tag Types, Source Types, Styles, etc. in multiple Data Sets.

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Thanks Terry

(1) The new project opened without some of my customised preferences eg: did not have my name as researcher; the window format seems to have been kept but there was a new colouring scheme. All the data appears to have transferred which is the more important thing.

 

(2) I'll think about your suggestion but basically my family oigins and my wife's are very different and do not ovelap. However your very good point is that I could not do one report for my children and as I'm finding it's hard to keep customisations! I suppose at some point I could combine the two projects!!

 

While I have you, do you know if v7 has a UK customisation? If not, is there any strong reason I should upgrade?

 

Elmar

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Thanks Terry

 

You're welcome. :)

 

 

(1) The new project opened without some of my customised preferences eg: did not have my name as researcher; the window format seems to have been kept but there was a new colouring scheme.

 

Do you mean the colors of the windows themselves on the screens? They are part of Program Options, not Project Options, so I don't unknow why they should change. I'm surprised that your reseacher info didn't come over.

 

 

While I have you, do you know if v7 has a UK customisation? If not, is there any strong reason I should upgrade?

 

Yes, there is a UK version of TMG7, and a UK upgrade option. There are a number of nice features in v7, perhaps the most useful in my view being the Sentence Preview, and the Tag and Source Reminder function. Not to mention a few bug fixes along the way.

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Thanks Terry

 

You're welcome. :)

 

 

(1) The new project opened without some of my customised preferences eg: did not have my name as researcher; the window format seems to have been kept but there was a new colouring scheme.

 

Do you mean the colors of the windows themselves on the screens? They are part of Program Options, not Project Options, so I don't unknow why they should change. I'm surprised that your reseacher info didn't come over.

 

 

While I have you, do you know if v7 has a UK customisation? If not, is there any strong reason I should upgrade?

 

Yes, there is a UK version of TMG7, and a UK upgrade option. There are a number of nice features in v7, perhaps the most useful in my view being the Sentence Preview, and the Tag and Source Reminder function. Not to mention a few bug fixes along the way.

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