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#21 Nicholas F. Dann

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 02:27 PM

I never reinstalled 9.01. I was running 9.05 in XP, and the new install on W10 is also 9.05. So haw can I recover a pjc file I have no access to except from my time machine? That is where I got the pjc file that TMG refuses to open because it's "in use".



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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:34 PM

Nicholas, You said you reinstalled TMG was that from a disk?



#23 Nicholas F. Dann

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 12:26 PM

Problem solved. It was a Parallels issue that they solved for me. I now have access to my TMG. Turns out under XP I was running 9.03, not 9.05, so Redleg21 was partially correct. Thanks!

 

Now the BIG question. What's the best way to upgrade my 9.03 to 9.05 since there is no automatic upgrade support? I have the 9.05 download. Are you telling me that my 9.03 project will not open in 9.05? I suppose I could test it on another computer.



#24 Terry Reigel

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 01:06 PM

Your project was last opened in 9.03, and you have 9.05 now installed? Right?

 

Just Open the project in 9.05, or if you have a backup rather than an active project on the 9.05 machine, Restore it. TMG will take care of any upgrades of the Project files that may be needed (I can't recall whether any were needed for this upgrade).


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#25 Redleg21

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 01:07 PM

Not sure on that one Nicholas, Give it a try and see what happens. In my case I was trying to run a 9.05 file on a 9.01 program. Unless you can get the Upgrade file for 9.05 the upgrade can't be done. That is why I converted my 9.05 files to a GEDCOM then put them into another program, made another GEDCOM and then put them into TMG 9.01. The program works fine and I have not had any further problems.



#26 Nicholas F. Dann

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 03:02 PM

Problem solved. It was a Parallels problem, which their tech support fixed for me. I now have access to my XP vm and my TMG. Lesson learned, though....do your backups regularly and store dupes of them someplace like a flash drive just to be sure.



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Posted 28 November 2016 - 03:40 PM

Not sure on that one Nicholas, Give it a try and see what happens. In my case I was trying to run a 9.05 file on a 9.01 program. Unless you can get the Upgrade file for 9.05 the upgrade can't be done. That is why I converted my 9.05 files to a GEDCOM then put them into another program, made another GEDCOM and then put them into TMG 9.01. The program works fine and I have not had any further problems.

By doing that you lost a lot of data. Why didn't you just install 9.05? The installers are available in a number of places, including at Wholly Genes at the link provided in a pinned topic at the top of  this section.


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#28 Terry Reigel

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 03:42 PM

Problem solved. It was a Parallels problem, which their tech support fixed for me. I now have access to my XP vm and my TMG. Lesson learned, though....do your backups regularly and store dupes of them someplace like a flash drive just to be sure.

 Nicholas,

 

That's an essential practice, but be sure to store some of the backups out of your house. Either at another address that doesn't share the same risks (that is not at your next door neighbor's), or by using a cloud backup service.


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 04:35 PM

 

Not sure on that one Nicholas, Give it a try and see what happens. In my case I was trying to run a 9.05 file on a 9.01 program. Unless you can get the Upgrade file for 9.05 the upgrade can't be done. That is why I converted my 9.05 files to a GEDCOM then put them into another program, made another GEDCOM and then put them into TMG 9.01. The program works fine and I have not had any further problems.

By doing that you lost a lot of data. Why didn't you just install 9.05? The installers are available in a number of places, including at Wholly Genes at the link provided in a pinned topic at the top of  this section.

 

Every link to the 9.05 upgrade I tried did not work This was back in June or July. I did not lose any data by doing the GEDCOM swap. The thing that saved me was I had another computer with all my data in 9.05 that I could make a GEDCOM with to do the swap.



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Posted 28 November 2016 - 05:02 PM

I did not lose any data by doing the GEDCOM swap.

You may think you did not lose any data, but you almost certainly did.  If you exported to GEDCOM from a TMG 9.05, even if you used its enhanced GEDCOM export option, there are things you undoubtedly lost.  You probably did not lose any people, or their primary BMDB data, but if you had any data beyond these bare bones facts you probably lost it.

 

For details of what data TMG simply cannot export to GEDCOM because of limitations in GEDCOM, see my "TMG GEDCOM ExportGuide to Limitations and Issues" special web page about " here:

 

http://www.mjh-nm.net/GED-EXPT.HTML


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#31 Terry Reigel

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 07:33 PM

Every link to the 9.05 upgrade I tried did not work This was back in June or July. I did not lose any data by doing the GEDCOM swap.

Look at your sources - the Source Types you assigned when you created them have been lost. The data in the various Source Elements is now scrambled. So your source notes in reports will be a mess.

 

Did you every use Witnesses? If so, they are lost.

 

Did you every put two Principals in a Tag that were not husband and wife? If so, those Tags are lost.

 

Did you ever enter a Date in a Note Tag? If so, those dates are lost. Read Michael's article for a more complete list. While you may not have used any of the features whose data loss he describes, I think you will find you did use a number of them.


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#32 Redleg21

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 07:17 AM

 

Every link to the 9.05 upgrade I tried did not work This was back in June or July. I did not lose any data by doing the GEDCOM swap.

Look at your sources - the Source Types you assigned when you created them have been lost. The data in the various Source Elements is now scrambled. So your source notes in reports will be a mess.

 

Did you every use Witnesses? If so, they are lost.

 

Did you every put two Principals in a Tag that were not husband and wife? If so, those Tags are lost.

 

Did you ever enter a Date in a Note Tag? If so, those dates are lost. Read Michael's article for a more complete list. While you may not have used any of the features whose data loss he describes, I think you will find you did use a number of them.

 

I just spent some time going through my file and many of the Items you note I have not done. For example in my file of 5000 + people I only used the Witnesses only 6 times. My Sources seem fine. I did not use many note tags and most all were not dated as they were notes to myself. I do appreciate this information and if I run into problems I will know why.

 

I guess the real question is I have the 9.01 disk and because I needed to install on a new computer (or Hard Drive) How do I get the 9.05 upgrade? When I tried back in June I could not find a disk or a download that worked.



#33 Terry Reigel

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 07:55 AM

Links to the installers for TMG 9.05 are listed in the topic "TMG9 - Final installers (v9.05)" in this forum. Yes, the links there did not work for a time, but they are correct now.


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