LornaHenderson

What, noone with any helpful suggestions? Perhaps related is that I am also not able to complete a backup on the laptop. Gets so far thru, then stops and tells me that message about zip files, which is rubbish. Can't browse much at the moment at mobile data rates, to find all the related messages, but can assure anyone interested that I have heaps of disk space free, and have set the entire project directory to NOT be read only in case that helped, but it didn't even change the problem. Haven't retried creating the LOP project as yet, I wont need it for another 4 weeks. Any hints?

Attached is a screen shot showing a merge screen and PV where it can be seen that the daughter shown on the merge screen has her non primary name. I cancelled the merge after taking the screen shots, then ran optimise and VFI (no problems found). It made no difference to the screen display. I sometimes noticed this in earlier versions, eg back in Sept 2005 under v 6.03, although my notes for that instance show I couldn't upload my attachment to show the example. TMG6v09NonPrimaryNameOnMergeScreen.doc

Well, I put the citation back on the 30th April, have just regenerated my web pages and remembered to check if it was still there. No, it's gone again. A VFI run earlier today showed no problems found. Haven't time just now to go back through the backups and find when it vanished, but I remember checking it was still there after I upgraded to 6.09

I've just exported a large chunk of my data for a fellow researcher using the LOP export to new project from a focus group. On the Miscellaneous tab I unchecked the show excluded & sensitive data, hoping that this would therefore exclude any sensitive data from the export. It didn't. At least I can find some sensitive data in my resultant dataset by searching for {|} in a memo. Reading the help files I can see that excluded data wll be excluded from a gedcom export, and by association I assumed, also a new project. The sensitive data comments don't make such a claim but I should certainly hope the option on the output tab would be honoured. In this particular case I trust implicitly the recipient of my db, or I wouldn't even be contemplating such an export, so it isn't a great problem, I was just being cautious and checking what happened. Can someone please comment as to whether or not the miscellaneous tab under the LOP report options about showing excluded/sensitive data should be honoured when creating secondary outputs?

Ta Jim, I sort of expected that might be the case, but I had to ask <g>

Just a comment that the change to the backup process in 6.09 doesn't suit this user. I generally backup to an external hard drive, which for reasons I've never made time to figure out, changes itself from J:\ to i:\ seemingly at random. Up to 6.08 I could set the drive in preferences to J: eg, and when I ran the back up with "generate name automatically" set, if the drive wasn't found, all I had to do was change the J to I or whatever, leaving the path the same. With 6.09, if the drive is not available it now reverts to the c:\ and loses all the directory structure, so I have to renavigate thru all the darn directories to get it back to where I want. And to add insult to injury, even though I cancelled when I found this out, it was too late, it had already overwritten the path to c:\ on me. Other than always leaving the external drive on, and therefore presumably unchanging in its drive mapping, does anyone have any suggestions to overcome this? Including getting TMG to reverse this "helpful" change?

Ahh, thanks Robin. I understand why now, at least. I often forgot to turn my external drive on before starting the backup, and it never crashed when it couldn't find it for me, just nicely told me I was an idiot. All I had to do was untick the generate name automatically, and change the drive letter. Oh well, I've reset my preferences to what my computer currently thinks the drive is.

Junec, Take a look at http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?showforum=41 and you should find heaps of info that will help you get started. I'd recommend Terry's tips as a starting point.

Hi, Investigate the options under the List of People report, Secondary output tab. Ust the focus group as the input, and put the flag to be set in the secondary output. All perfectly standard TMG

Just reporting that it's now 30 April, I'm trying to update my web pages, and I noticed that the #&(*&(% citation has yet again disappeared. I've been back thru the backups I've taken between the above 5th April and now. The citation is still there on an 8th april full backup, and on the 12th April cycling backup, but gone by the 17th's cycling backup. Running a report on the 17th file for all those people with a last edit date after 12 Apr showed 146 people, none of whom are the id affected. I cannot think of a single thing out of the ordinary about these people, or the time period concerned. The backups concerned are 11meg each but if anyone wants them to see if any clues can be spotted, please let me know, I've earmarked them not to be overwritten.

Please please DON'T put off entering sources, you will regret it later. Try http://tmg.reigelridge.com/index.htm The "unknown"s appearing are because your templates have some data or other missing and the output template hasn't got conditional markers < ... > around the elements concerned. Read Terry's tips above, and come back to the TMG list (see http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/TMG.html on how to subscribe) with any questions. Lots of helpful people out there.

v6.08 what I think I did this time. I'd just added a census tag to a person, putting him as a son (Witness) of a newly added person (supposedly his mother) but working from his person view. ie I'd shifted him from principal to witness and added the mother (now the principal) as a new person. After F9ing the census tag I opened his Mother relationship tag and keyed in her id. moused into the relationship memo and entered some text, then f9'd to close the relationship tag. Previously he only had a father, no mother. After adding this mother, who at this stage DID have his same surname, I was not prompted to add marriage for parents (and yes my preferences are set to prompt for adding marriage to parents).

The vanishing names from the PE is something that sometimed happened in earlier versions, but this is my first 6.08 instance. See attached for example. What I've not seen before is the addition of an extra line to the PE saying "unknown", which, when clicked takes you to a completely blank Person View Couldn't reproduce either, so FYI only. TMG6.08PENoNames.doc

See attached doc for screen shots of a mystery character introduced into the relationship memo when I connected a couple of daughters up to their mother. What I think I did: with dtr in PV double clicked on "mother" slot keyed in person id of required mother F9 to save and close Y to continue without adding citation What I definitely didn't do, go anywhere near the relationship memo field. TMG6.08RelationshipMemoCR.doc

Thanks for posting that Jim, I too was getting the above 107Operator/operand type mismatch. 8028 FIXORIGTYPE2 96Nesting error. 8037 FIXORIGTYPE2 which I had to use Check for an update to escape from as VFI froze. Running optimise and then VFI, did work, no problems found.

Hi, Are you absolutely sure that in the Person View, there isn't a Name-Var tag showing down with all the other birth/death etc tags? The primary name tag doesn't show up down there, only as the Name in the box top left.

Hi David, You're missing a font on your computer. There should be several messages on the TMG list about where to get it back from. Try a search of the mailing list archives at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=TMG

I've created a focus group of selected descendants for a chart I want to send to someone. Tried using List of People report using current focus group, with secondary output to a new project (overwriting an existing, but empty, one (but I got the same error message when I tried creating new project instead of using List of People). Ignore seems to loop. Abort brought me back to my report definition screen, but it was frozen, had to check for update to get out of TMG but that left me with an error message unknown member ROTOOLBARMAN which I had to use task manager to clear. Addenda: Retrying this after a VFI and optimize made the error go away.

The thought that sprung to my mind was what version are you using? And, if it is an earlier than 6.07, do you use function keys to open the memo before pasting? Some earlier versions had issues about text not being saved if you hadn't clicked in the memo first before using something like an F7 paste F9 sequence. Not a problem in the current version though.

As per my email on the list, attached are some screen shots of my attempts to find the remaining reference to a source I'm tyring to delete. List of events filtered for citations to source x says there aren't any qualifying events. List of citations report gives a result of one, and variable output depending on format, screen and PDF one outpuf, rtf or word giving a conversion error. I need to know where it thinks it is being used so I can check my data and either fix it to another source or delete the citation, and then delete the source Help! TMG6.07WhereIsMyCitation.doc

Ta Terry, glad I wasn't completely missing the plot, just rather unobservant as to the abbreviations on my source, and rather fixated on the numbers. I have heaps of gaps in my source numbering, (years of tidy up behind me, and ahead) so yes it is highly likely to be an internal number, lower than the actual visible number. That source was probably the only one in my db that had a source of a source, I've never really noticed it or used it, and didn't really read the heading of the box!!

Looked there, nothing listed at all. On the attachments tab for 1063 the only entry is the repository 2019 has nothing on that screen either. However, I've just noticed that source 1063 isn't "Metters, Devon" at all so no wonder I've not spotted it. I'm sure I've NOT renumbered it. Searching for METTERS brought up source 1362, which does, indeed have 2019 as a source of a source. I just reran the list of citations to check it did indeed say 1063, it does (but wont next time as it is now gone). So I guess I've solved one problem and raised another, why on earth does the list of citations report show the wrong number? Thanks for all your help

Thanks all, but.. I thought it might be something like that, but I'm darned if I can spot it. the two sources are completely separate logically, and appear to have absolutely nothing connecting them visible I can't even spot how I can input/update/change a source of a source - and help didn't help Running a list of sources report, filtered by source number, separately for both numbers just showed up a one line report showing number, surety, abbreviation Couldn't spot anything in the filters available that would let me find a source of a source either.

yep. zilch shows up. I'm beginning to think that the 1 citation is a figment of TMG's imagination, and I should just delete the damn thing anyway, but I got stubborn as to why and where. Ta for trying

Further to Teresa's comment on the TMG list, attached is a file of snapshots where I could make this happen each time. Basically, unfiltered, accented PE expand a family see (sp) next to spouse click on child change dth date PE display updates, with (sp) next to spouse gone. It can be brought back by collapsing and expanding the family if you really want to see it. Hardly a major matter, but for curiousity sake, my evidence is attached. TMG6.07PEspDisplay.doc