percy porter

I have just upgraded from V7 to V8 and have come across the same problem I had when I moved from V6 to V7!

How do I move the data across to the updated version, I am sure it is simple (it must be otherwise I would not have been able to do it last time), simple langauge for an old fart to be able to understand would be appreciatted.

Alan NZ

Thanks Michael, after going round in circles for a while I managed to achieve a satisfactory result. Not bad considering it's only 06.45. I hope the rest of the day follows along the same lines but I doubt it.

Regards

Hi Alan,

 

Yep, there is an easier way

 

If you have a true family, then I suggest creating a Focus Group starting with adding an individual, then their ancestors, spouse, descendants, as needed. Keep adding until you get the people you want in that Focus Group. Now save the group with some name. Finally, run a List of People report. On the main report definition screen select your Focus Group as the Subjects. Now in the report Options, on the Secondary Output tab, choose to create a new project.

 

If this is not clear check the TMG Help under the topic "Focus Group", or just ask and one of us users will provide more details.

I have a family on my tree which I wish to create in a separate project, I started to do it manually but I am sure their is a far more economical way of doing it. There are some 50 names plus spouses going back to the mid 1600s' which could take me forever ........

can anyone offer a solution.

Alan NZ

Percy,

 

If your correspondent gave you the data handwritten, I assume he doesn't use TMG, or another program either for that matter. So I'd think that to pass the data to him you would want to use a printed report. Am I off base here?

 

Now about your TMG Project. If you find the people interesting, I'd just leave them where they are. Other than their names appearing in the Picklist, I don't see that as a problem. If you really want them out, we can help you get them to a separate project. Just describe how they connect to the data you want to keep.

I think I may have not explained myself, as mentioned I am not very profficient with the program and I am aware that it will do far more than I am ever likely to need it for. It is the first program of this nature that I have used, the original bought in 2000 has been progresivly updated to the current Version 7.04 so I am reluctant to move to another possibly simpler program for that reason

I don't neccasarily want to 'remove' the names from my tree just make up another tree with that particular portion of the family in it.

There are 4 families from around 1800 that I want to create a seperate list of and take it through to aroound 1970 the names from then down are all known so I don't want to include them. Also I normally do not include living family members but add them as and when they become deceased.

I am not sure wether he has a Family Tree program or not I was intending to send him a gedcom as well as a printed report as he is online and I get the ocaasional e-mail from him.

I am ware that I can print out both ancestor and descendent reports, I have as yet to find out how to save these to a seperate file and send that on electronically. My main trouble is understanding the language, unless you ask the right question on the help file you come up with a blank it's knowing how to phrase the question!

I'm sorry if I am confusing you but I can assure you I am most likely just as confused as you

Alan NZ

Hi Terry,

thanks for your response.

My reason for extracting is to create a seperate tree to pass on to a fellow researcher who has a lose connection to my wifes part of the family. He forwarded a hand written tree containing some useful information on the ancestors of that line but as I only "collect" direct family members and do not branch of down to the twigs of my tree most of those he has sent are of no interest to me, only a few have a direct connection to my wife. However having said that the family were a very interesting one and I found it quite satisfying when researching and it filled in quite a bit of background of the time, they lived in the North East of England in the Durham/Newcastle upon Tyne area were my wifes family still live.

He has merely collected the names but to the best of my knowledge have not added the detail, the names have all come from family sources. I have been able to sustantiate these names by way of online records such as BMD and censuses and wish to transmit this back to him.

Having said all that, it may well appear that the option you mention in your final paragraph could well be the way to go could I impose on you to elaborate on that?

I should point out that I am far from an "experienced user".

Again thanks for your help

Regards

Alan NZ

Alan,

 

I think you mean you are using TMG, not FTM?

 

You "extract" a part of your Data Set to either a separate Data Set or a separate Project with the Secondary Output of the List of People Report. Click Options on that report, and then the Secondary Output tab.

 

The trick then is to 1) define exactly what you mean by "part of my tree," and then 2) collect those people in the List of People report.

 

The first part means that you have to be precise. Do you mean someone's ancestors, or someone's descendants? How about their spouses? Parents of Spouses? Siblings? Etc.

 

Once you are clear on exactly who you mean, you can use a Filter, the Focus Group, or select people in the Project Explorer to control who is include in the List of People. Which is easiest depends on exactly how you define the target group. My article Using People Filters can help with that part. We can also help you here if you tell us who you want to include.

 

Having said all that, I would ask why you are trying to separate the line out? Most experienced users agree that keeping your working data for all lines in a single Data Set is generally a good idea for a number of reasons. If you are separating them for a specific task, there may be a better way to do that task without creating a separate Data Set or Project.

I run FTM 7.03 (in the processing of downloading 7.04) and I wish to extract part of my tree to create a stand alone one for that branch of the family. I am sure it can be done but as yet I have not been able to find out how

Your advice is eagerly anticipated.

Regards

Alan NZ

This is a known problem and should be fixed in v7.04. In the meantime, if you are in Beginner data entry mode, change to Advanced data entry mode:

 

File / Preferences / Program Options / Data Entry / select Advanced data entry mode

 

If that does not work, try changing to v5/6 sizing:

 

File / Preferences / Program Options / Other / select Use the TMG 5/6 method of window resizing.

 

Virginia

Thanks for that Virginia, it seems to have solved the problem but now of course there are all those "whistles and bells" on the advanced screen which I have no idea what they are for or mean.

Regards

Alan (hot) NZ

I get the above message when trying to add under the <Add person> link.

The message on this error goes on to read "10FRMADDPERSON.GRDPERSONLIST1.RESIZE" It gives me three options <ABORT> <RETRY> or <IGNORE>

By going to <ABORT> I get straight to the ADD PERSON screen, however a slightly different screen layout to one that I have used prior to this error message croping up.

By going to <RETRY> Nothing happens, the link just doesn't work.

By going to <IGNORE>, the first time time the message changes to "12FRMADDPERSON.GRDPERSONLIST1.RESIZE a further click changes the message again to "13FRMADDPERSON.GRDPERSONLIST1.RESIZE" and on the next click I get into the <ADD PERSON> screen and all appears normal.

I thought initially that I had made some sort of accidental adjustment to this particular "Project" however I have just opened a new project am getting the same error message.

Any help would be appreciated

Regards

Alan NZ

When opening up this morning I got a screen with the above heading.

Underneath was the following:

[color="#0000FF"]

"Repair Mode has been activated. The application will now operate some what more slowly as it validates each file that it is opened.

Repair mode will be off again next time you run the application"[/color]

I click <OK> and I then get the opening menu.

"Welcome to the Master Genealogist!"

I am offered all the options with the exception of <Last>.

I go to <Select> and select the project I wish to open

I then get a screen headed,

"My project.Hawkins_.PJC - The Master Genealogist (repair mode)"

It states,

"An error has occured when opening the data tables...."

It then goes on to identify the file

"File c:\Documents and Settings\.......\.......\The Master Genealogist v7\MY PROJECT.HAWKINS_ND.dbf

not found"

I click <OK> and the screen closes.

I have done two things that may have caused the problem and that is I have renamed two of the files.

I have done a system restore to initially 24 hours previous, this made no difference so went back a further 24 hours which was also unsuccesfull.

I then decided to restore from a backup, (surprise, surprise yes I did have one) but got a question asked during the restoration that I was not happy to go past.

I go through the same process as described above and insted of going to the <select> button I go to the <restore> button.

I follow the commands and get to selct the location of the backup which is on a cd, I select the backup file and when I open the file I get the "Restore Wizard."

I select step 1. <restore project> one of three options, then

Step 2 Data and accept the 3 files/locations offered, they are the,

1. location of the file, in this case the cd drive

2. Restore project to this folder

3. Restore exhibits to this folder

When I go to <next> I get this message.

"You're trying to restore a backup over your existing data! Are you sure you want to continue?"

My question then is Do I ?

Also should I NOT accept the file destinatations/locations offered in Step 2 Data.

I hope this is clear to those that know more than I which unfortunately is not much.

I have been using TMG for some years now and am quite happy with it, however am aware of my own shortcomings.

TIA

Alan NZ

I should add that the two others files I did NOT rename open ok!

Alan NZ,

You might be interested in reading Terry's tips about this first

http://tmg.reigelridge.com/sharing.htm

I agree wholeheartedly with Terry, in that any time I have shared data via gedcom I have regretted it.

 

However, should you really wish to proceed, you can export data from a focus group.

So if you can identify the line you wish to share, add the progenitor to the focus group, select him and select add descendants, and add others

Then select all and add the spouses etc etc etc until you get all the people you want.

Then use the File Export option.

Thanks Lorna, I'll try that. It's a bit late in the day for my brain so it will have to wait until tommorrow now. I wish to share one family line with a distant relation who is following the same basic line as me and I am not keen on sending the whole tree.

Alan NZ

I have a similar problem in trying to save a file to disc so that I can forward it on as an attachment but their doesn't seem to be a way to do it.

Alan NZ

I wish to extract details of a few lines in our family tree to send on to a relation who is also following the same line but don't want to send my whole tree. Is there a way of extracting just the lines I wish to send.?

Alan NZ

I have never been afraid to ask stupid questions and I don't mean to stop now.

I have been running versions of TMG now for a few years and am becoming increasingly aware that I am not using it to it's full extent, largely becuase I do not understand the 'language'.

I am now trying to do things that are not obvious to me, such as adding places of education, employment and other events that are important besides 'Hatches, Matches and Despatches'

In words of one sylable how do I do this ?

Is there a glossary of terms that are peculiar to geaneology and if so were can I find it.

Regards

Alan

If you have successfully moved the Backup .sqz file to the new PC, are you using Restore (not Open) to open the .sqz file?

 

The only other thing I can think of is if the first PC has an older operating system (like WindowsMe) and an earlier version of tmg (one version had a problem with backups on older operating systems).

 

Virginia

Terry/Virginia........

thanks for your replies, I don't know how but I seem to have mastered it. I fluffed around for most of last night and in the end much to my surprise the transferred data appeared. I think I may well have gone the "restore" route in the end.

I am running TMG UK Edition on both PCs however the earlier one is running ME and the later one XP, however I feel that any problems I may have encountered would have been largely of my own making.

Again thank you both for your input it was much appreciatted and was largely responsible for my ability to percivere rather than throwing both pcs' through the window.

Can you explain to me the difference between .sqc file and .pjc file?

Regards

By "the file" I assume you mean the backup file. It goes where it's specified in Preferences > Current Project Options > Advanced, under Backup. With that Project open, check what that setting is.

 

Or, look at the "Select backup file" field at Step 2 of the backup process - the path will be displayed there. You can uncheck the "Generate archive name automatically" box on that screen and set the folder to what you want manually.

Right............

I've mastered some of that but after about an hour of sheer frustration all I have managed to achieve is saving the data to a location that I can access it from the other PC. When I try to open it it comes up with a message that it "does not appear to be a valid PJC File"

Once you have installed TMG on the new machine, there are several ways to transfer the data files. If you need to physically move it with a floppy, CD, thumb drive, etc., the easiest is to make a backup, which compresses the files and combines them into a single file for transfer. Then copy that backup to the new PC, and Restore it. The backup can also include report definitions and other customizations you have made.

 

Since your machines are networked, it's easy to copy that backup between machines over the network. You could also use the Copy Project command (File menu), but that will not copy your customizations.

Thanks Terry, I understand that, as previously stated neither machine has a floppy so that process is out. The problem I have is actually finding the file with all the data on it and moving it to the folder I use for transferring data between the two pcs'.

With my previous version of TMG I was able to specify a file and location for the data to go to, but now it just seems to dissappear into a hole somewhere. If I knew the name of the file I could do a search and locate it that way, but I don't.

Regards

I am sure I am missing something down the line but I am having trouble finding a way to transfer data.

I have recently upgraded TMG to v6.09 and I wish to transfer all my data to a new PC. In the earlier version I was able to save my file to a new source then burn it to a cd. So far I have been unable to find a way of doing this.

The two pcs' are networked and if I could find a way it should be possible to transfer the files via the network.

I do not have a floppy on either pc so can not save and transfer that way.

As mentioned earlier I am sure the answer is there somewere but I just can't find it, any help would be apprecaiatted.