Changing Report Margins

[Leslie1899 0]

I really need to find a way to change report margins in TMG 6's report writer so that when the report is sent to a WordPerfect file and ultimately printed, I can bind the report. While I can change the margins on the main body of the document once it's imported into WP, I have to change each individual footnote's margins. All my work is sourced so there may be 200+ footnotes for each primary person so individually changing the margin of each footnote is an impossible task.

 

I also discovered that the latest release of TMG 6 has a problem exporting into WP v8 or higher. All reports are formatted in Times Roman 12 point even if they are formatted in the TMG report writer in Arial 10 pt type and the font cannot be changed once the document is in WordPerfect! I've never run into this problem before and I'm an experienced WP user accustomed to using control codes. Having learned this the hard way, I am exporting into WP v5.1 or later.

Leslie

[Paul Lawrence 0]

I really need to find a way to change report margins in TMG 6's report writer so that when the report is sent to a WordPerfect file and ultimately printed, I can bind the report.  While I can change the margins on the main body of the document once it's imported into WP, I have to change each individual footnote's margins.  All my work is sourced so there may be 200+ footnotes for each primary person so individually changing the margin of each footnote is an impossible task. 

 

I also discovered that the latest release of TMG 6 has a problem exporting into WP v8 or higher.  All reports are formatted in Times Roman 12 point even if they are formatted in the TMG report writer in Arial 10 pt type and the font cannot be changed once the document is in WordPerfect!  I've never run into this problem before and I'm an experienced WP user accustomed to using control codes.  Having learned this the hard way, I am exporting into  WP v5.1 or later.

Leslie

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I don't have the above font problem when outputting to WP v8 or higher. I have the fonts set to Arial in TMG and I get Arial in WP. Maybe it's the version of WP that you are using. I am using WP v9.....

[John Moran 0]

Although WP 8 was a *transition* version with lots of reported problems, is it possible that your computer is missing a required version of the Arial font? That is, check Windows Character Map to see if your computer has only the old single byte English/Latin Arial, or is using the English/Latin mapping of Arial Unicode font?

 

You might even poke around in Regional Settings in Control panel to see if anything is miss. You are using Win XP?

 

But sometimes it's easier to just give up and go with what works.<g>

John

[John Moran 0]

I really need to find a way to change report margins in TMG 6's report writer so that when the report is sent to a WordPerfect file and ultimately printed, I can bind the report.  While I can change the margins on the main body of the document once it's imported into WP, I have to change each individual footnote's margins.  All my work is sourced so there may be 200+ footnotes for each primary person so individually changing the margin of each footnote is an impossible task. . . . . . . 

Leslie

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As to margins, check your printer driver in Wordperfect. Assuming that your right and left margins are OK, make sure that your particular printer is capable of printing to within 0.25 inches (.12 inches preferred) so that "footer" sizing does not get screwed up. If it is a an older Epson Photo Inkjet printer , you may be out of luck and have to run it through a pdf converter in Worperfect. If it is a newer Epson Inkjet, you may find a minimize margins setting in Control Panel>Printers/faxes.

 

If neither is a problem, perhaps the missing Arial font will get the footnotes back in synch.

John

[Leslie1899 0]

I have WP v11 and I have the Arial typeface available on my HP LaserJet printer, currently set up to do postscript printing. I do not believe the problem is with WP. I absolutely, positively HAVE to have a right and left margin that can be set to .75 because I perform duplex printing for all my reports.

 

The issue with the export into WP v8 and higher was completely unexpected and I won't ever try that again. The TMG Individual Narrative report WAS set in Arial 10, but it became Times Roman 12 in WP. And, it could NOT be changed once I was in WordPerfect! No amount of fiddling with control codes could change the typeface or point size. I didn't bother trying any of the other reports.

 

Once I switched to the Journal report and back to exporting into WP 5 or higher, the type face was correct. I can set the report margins to what I want. However, I cannot change the footnote margins without changing each individual margin. This is a total impossibility with as many footnotes as I typically have.

 

TMG automatically assumes a .5 margin on both right and left sides. THIS is what I must be able to change to .75 in order to be able to bind or even punch holes in my reports for placement into a regular 3-hole binder.

Leslie

[John Moran 0]

Leslie-

You might give this forum a try, from a google search for "footnote margins wordperfect"

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~wptoolbox/Tips/FNEN.html

[Leslie1899 0]

Thank you, John. I went to the site and will try to develop my own macro to do this. I still think TMG should give owners the ability to set desired margins in any report. Given the flexibility of the overall program, it's amazing to me that this isn't already an option.

Leslie

[Leslie1899 0]

I went to the macro, as well as WprdPerfect, site, but there wasn't any help on it that I didn't already know. The situation is still the same: the only way to change the footnote margins is to edit the "style" of each individual footnote. The .5 margin originates with the report writer in TMG and forces this margin on each and every footnote. There isn't a global method to replace this style . . . unless I am willing to change the importation of every document I might possibly import into WprdPerfect into this particular style and even then, I'm not at all certain it would work). I can easily change the blasted .5 margin in the document itself gobally, but not on the footnotes.

 

I tried to record a macro to make the changes, but the area required is greyed out. No help there.

 

This is very discouraging.

Leslie

[Leslie1899 0]

I found a solution although it's not the one I would've chosen. I'd never sent a report directly to the printer, but if you go to the setup options for the printer you will find two margin options: .5 and 1.0. If you select the 1.0 and save it, when you next go to export a that particular report, the margins will both be 1.0 in the body of the report AND in the footnotes. This is quite a bit wider that I would like, but it's far better than losing parts of words and footnote numbers when you bind a report.

Leslie

[John Moran 0]

I found a solution although it's not the one I would've chosen.  I'd never sent a report directly to the printer, but if you go to the setup options for the printer you will find two margin options:  .5 and 1.0.  If you select the 1.0 and save it, when you next go to export a that particular report, the margins will both be 1.0 in the body of the report AND in the footnotes.  This is quite a bit wider that I would like, but it's far better than losing parts of words and footnote numbers when you bind a report.

Leslie

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Leslie-

The assumption is that you do not have MSWord for any other text editor to filter the margin settings through, right? And you read the short blurb in my URL link above about special problems with WP 10/11/12, right?

 

I just exported a short sample journal to file in RTF. Then I opened it as txt, not RTF, in Word, found the margin settings "just below the crease" and changed 0.50 inches to 0.75 inches by changing margl and margr from 720 twips to 1080 twips.

 

If you do open an RTF file as text, be sure to save it back to text before renaming it to RTF. . .important!!

 

If you are in a time bind, but have broadband, OpenOffice.org how has a (free) usable product in Writer version 2.0. Save the Journal report to doc or rtf format for opening in OOo.

Good luck,

John

[JanisR 0]

All reports are formatted in Times Roman 12 point even if they are formatted in the TMG report writer in Arial 10 pt type and the font cannot be changed once the document is in WordPerfect! /snapback]

I just had a similar font problem in MS Word for a Family Group Sheet. I ran an FGS and did not like the size of the names. I went into the font tab and it said the fonts for the names were Arial 11 with Arial 9 for everything else but titles. When I changed the 11 pt names to a 10 pt bold and reran the report, the names were SMALLER than the 9 pt type! I went back into the font page and sure enough, each 9 pt font "looked" larger than the 10 pt I had just changed. I changed another and it was smaller. I reran the report and the 9 pt was still larger than the new 10 pt! I then reset them all and everything was back to normal... Could you be having a similar problem with WordPerfect?

 

Using TMG 6.07 on XP Home

 

Jan