Mr.Kim.Sanders

This is Still about TMG9 being a Huge Disappointment. Me being locked Out of v9, and feeling that I had to go Back to v8. And the fact that v9 Isn't recognizing my Registration. It's very Much a Huge Disappointment. And how will “support@whollygenes.com” know where to Look, when my Comments would be moved with out Consulting with me first? I'm Very disappointed.

OK. I put “Mr.Kim.Sanders's TMG v9UKGold Registration Issue” as the Subject. Following that, here's the Body to my e-mail 1. I'm following Jim Byram's suggestion at http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index.php?showtopic=15563&do=findComment&comment=63958 to contact you regarding my registration issue. 2. While I'm At it, I'd like to Upgrade my TMG v8UKGold project so that it's v9UKGold. How do I go about doing That? and How do I Change the name of That v9UKGold project (since Both v9UkGold projects Can't have the same Name when I Merge them)? Mr.Kim.Sanders Calgary (Alberta) Canada

I Was able to Install and Laucnh v9 using the link that you Provided, Jim Byram. Then, when I hit the Unlock option after entering my Registration Info (First Name, Last Name, E-Mail, and Serial Number exactly as shown in my confirmation e-mail, from when I Bought v9) Now I get the Following Message “Registration data is invalid. You will be prompted to register again when you next start the application. In the meantime, we will continue in trial mode. Please contact technical support if you continue to have trouble.” So, I'm Back, needing next Step(s).

A couple of Weeks ago, I paid for the Upgrade from version 8 to v9. I backed up my v8 data and accessed the Download.php. Then I went about entering some Data. I went about trying to add a Tag and got completely locked Out. After trying to Access my v9 once again a few Minutes ago, and Still locked out, I Decided to Uninstall my v9, back up my v8 data once Again, and tried to access the Download.php once Again. Unfortunately, Even though I've Paid for the v9 Upgrade, I was Automatically informed that “This download has expired or is invalid.” What can I do Now, so that I can Reinstall v9? I Don't feel that I should have to pay the 29.95 USD Again to have v9. I Bought v9 GoldUK. My Email is Mr.Kim.Sanders@shaw.ca, so that I can get a fresh v9 GoldUK Upgrade link emailed to me.

My reason for mentioning SQL Server Express is simply to say that perhaps Microsoft has finally done what they need to, and now TMG can do [underline]its[/underline] work. It would appear that there are a variety of options, SQL Server Express being just one in just the SQL Server series. I am optimistic after all. Enough so that I finally upgraded my main project from 6.12 to 7.04. There are also a variety of Tech Support forums, which can be quite helpful if you know the language, which is how I found out about SQL Server Express in the first place. Of course, no surprise really, those with other genealogical program bents always want a person to convert their way, such as to PAF. But for me, there are 2 reasons I have chosen, and stick with, TMG: the ability to tie other people in to a line using Witnesses/Associates, and the ability to have a variety of separate line entries regarding birth estimates, etc.

I just got word that "SQL Server Express is a free download and supports Unicode." So it will be interesting to see how TMG works with SQL Server Express replacing VFP as the base.

I'm not as set as all that, Andy. It would appear that even John Cardinal feels that flexibility and inclusiveness do seem viable. To repeat his final words in Post #47, "it might be useful to make all toolbar icons optional: the feature is not about saving RAM, it's about making it more convenient for users to customize the program to suit their preferences." That speaks volumes, to my mind. /Kim.

So, as Posts 48 and 49 show, there is quite a diversity to the personalities attracted to TMG. For now, I'm keeping my large amount of data in 6.12, and experimenting with others' suggestions on my 7 (which only has 3 people in it, with 1-4 Tag lines apiece). I don't feel worried about losing data that way. I figure on holding off converting my large database until I see the type of changes I mention in Post 48 here, unless there's some other compelling reason that I can get to understand. /Kim.

Thanks for weighing in, John. Yeah, making all the toolbar icons optional, even on all versions of the Tag screens, would be a great help to me. For instance, I'd like to be able to remove all the Web and Report features completely, as well as the Citation and Log features. The 10 data fields on the Tag screens are also not being used on most of my latest entries; neither are the citation and log features. I, personally, prefer to use the Memo field in place of both the data fields and the Citation fields. In other words, having several toolbars and Tag screens (each showing only the icons/ fields I actually use) would be excellent progress, from my point of view. /Kim.

Sure - most if it applies, but it does describe some of the features that are new in ver. 7 which you won't have (none of what we've talked about here is new in ver. 7). But why are you using out-dated software for your valuable data? You should upgrade to the current version - it has some bug fixes, several very nice new features, and as I recall it's a bit faster. • As I said, in general, I am trying to eliminate features, not add them. The 2 changes I'm waiting for: expand to Unicode, and allow the actual default features to be pruned/expanded. • I've just explained it as well as I can. • To each, his own.

Hello, Terry. 1• I'm using TMG 6.12 for my big project still. Would your book help me? 2• I'm a hands-on visual person myself. I know the standard/defaults and I can easily see which features I don't use. With something new, I might forget something, and thus lose something. That something could be some actual data, or it could be me not knowing how to get to it (which to me amounts to the same thing). Also, if a toolbar is "out of sight" and "turned off", it may be out of mind, but the fact that it's being stored somewhere means to me that bytes are dedicated to it. /Kim.

I'm into minimal, but versatile. So, I'll make due with what I've got. It's a shame, perhaps. But, with about 33,000 people in my Tree and probably an average of 10 Tags per person, I feel it's not worth the risk(s). Thanks, Virginia, for helping me walk through the relevant issues. I appreciate your cool head on this. Much appreciated. /Kim.

1• Thank you, Virginia, for sharing with me in this discussion so far. Hopefully this conversation will help others like myself that seem to require "live" assistance in knowing which changes the system currently allows, and which ones may yet be future. 2• Yes, I see that your suggestion may be a viable option for someone else. Personally, I don't want to add to the dedicated memory needed by Adding a Custom toolbar. Rather, I want to decrease the memory load by eliminating icons (that I don't want) from the Standard toolbar itself. That option doesn't seem to be available yet. 3• To me, this looks like another version of the same issue. Personally, I'm looking to have the option of changing the elements of the actual default Flags tab. 4• This appears to be yet a third version of the one issue. I would appreciate the option of modifying of the default Advanced Tag. At the same time, I am looking for the option of a further-simplified Custom Tag screen which I could convert my Tag screens to (one at a time). /Kim.

I also have Czech names in my Tree. The workaround that I've come up with is to use Alt-0165 (¥) to represent words such as hác¥ek (my representation of the Czech word for the v-shaped Czech diacritic), and Alt-0176(°) to represent the krouz¥ek (the o-shaped Czech diacritic) in du°m (a Czech word for house). As my examples bear out, I'm using Western Windows Alt-codes throughout, with the ¥ or ° following the base character to represent the diacritic. For a more fullsome description regarding a whole range of languages, see http://www.whollygenes.com/forums201/index...?showtopic=9809 —ASCII-workarounds for accented letters. I hope you find this useful while we are waiting on Unicode. Of course, converting all of this to Unicode, when it does come, will need to be addressed. Hopefully, topic 9809 will be referenced so that the upgrade will be seamless when it arrives for all users who have used the workarounds decribed there. /Kim.

• It would seem to me that there is a potentially wide variety of personal customizations that ought to be available even if perhaps some of them are not available currently. I'm thinking of both the install stage as well as throughout the use of TMG throughout its iterations and upgrades. Some, like me, have used a TMG version since it became available to them. After using it for a time, they may decide that they want to streamline things, at least a little. I certainly do. (Thank you, Virginia Blakelock, for your "elegant, business" screen shot(s) mentioned here. The full-width Details aspect is certainly useful to me. I have incorporated it into my new look. It allows me the maximum input per one-line Tag Entry.) • There is much more that I'd like to be able to do. For example, various icons appear across the top that I have no desire for at the moment: icons such as Exhibits, DNA, Tasks, Web, and Image. So, I'd like to be able to have the options of uninstalling various ones now, and reinstalling perhaps one or more of them later. • Keeping to the issue of flexibility, I'd like to be able to change the Ancestor Interest and Descendant Interest options on the Flags tab. I don't find 0,1,2,3 particularly helpful myself, but it obviously means something to those that designed it that way. I'd like to be able to have the option of eliminating the Ancestor/ Descendant Interest features, or perhaps modifying them to something more meaningful. • On the Tag Entry itself, after having experimented with several approaches, I now would prefer having an option to change the pop-up screen since I use just the Memo note for most of my current Tags, but generally do not now use the Place style, nor the Citation field, nor the various icons in the upper-right-hand area such as Primary name and look-up tools, which are below the Tag Entry row. • Rather than using an entry system that adds verbs and grammatical structure to my data, I have developed a different approach. One sample of a current, typical Tag in my Tree is the following Christening Memo:- Thomas PIDSLEY [32939]: chr. 04 Feb 1787 @ Topsham DEV ENG: parents= Peter PIDSLEY [32933], Sarah [32934] <IGI Batch P001841. • In the example above, each person's name is followed by its matching Tree#; Chapman-type County/ Country Codes are used; and the Source is indicated at the end. • Since the topic is "Version 8?", I believe that it is open to each contributor's interpretation and reaction to the inputs of others. My submissions here are intended to give further insights into the way I personally think of TMG now and going forward, perhaps more nuanced than before.