Bob Greiner

I am trying to use the List of People report to print in tabular form basic event dates and places (BMD) plus certain other event information (e.g. immigration date/place) for a group of people. However, when defining the event information to be printed in the output columns, there is only a limited set of event types to choose from. You cannot choose to print the immigration date and place. Is there any way, in general, to print on a single line a list of selected data fields for each person, from the basic tag type groups as well as from any of the tags in the other group? I found that I can create separate reports into Excel of the basic tag type information (to get more than the maximum 8 output fields), including the ID number, then cut and paste multiple columns within Excel to merge identical individual information. That works for the basic event types (BMD) that can be printed by the List of People. However, if I print a list of the same people with a particular event type, some may not have that event tag, so the resulting list would not have the same number of people in it. That makes it difficult to merge within Excel. Can you think of any other way to print lists of various events for a group of people in such a way that the separate lists can be merged onto a single line for each person?

Terry, Thanks for the suggestions. The individual detail report contains too much information. I am looking to create a single line (row) of fields for each person. The list of events report works, except that if a person does not have the specific tag type, they are not included in the report. When I use Excel to merge this report with two or more list of people reports, I could not think of an easy way to insert extra rows for those people without the event so that I have the same number of rows in each report. The solution was to ensure that all people that I choose to select have the desired tag type added to their record. I did this by first selecting the group of people I wanted to include, and setting a flag for all in this group. Then I found all people with the flag who were missing the specific tag, and added the tag to that smaller group. I had to do that manually, as I could not find an automated way (even in TMG Utilities) to add a tag to a select group. (I should add that the custom tag that I added is only expected to be used once per person. Otherwise I might get multiple lines per person in the list of events report.) Now I can run several list of people reports for the same group of people, each with a different list of output fields, but with the ID# common in all reports. I do the same for the list of events report. All are sent to Excel. Then I simply cut and paste the desired columns from each report into a single Excel worksheet to get my desired result. Thanks again, Bob

When I click on Window -> Flags the Flags window appears, but I only see one column - the list of flag names. There is no column for the flag values. I have always had the problem that this window is not sized properly at first opening. The values were always off screen to the right. I would have to expand the screen and then resize the column widths. However, now there is no second column and I cannot resize the screen or adjust column widths to make it visible. TMG 8.04.0000 Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600

Thank you. That did the trick. None of the changes to preference seemed to work. However, the default flag window looked normal. I just deleted my personal layout and recreated it from the default. Bob

Virginia, Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately, none of them worked. Here is an example of what the screen looks like when I select Window -> Flags. No matter how far I slide the divider at the top of the screen, the second column does not appear. As you can see, there is also no slider at the bottom. http://home.comcast.net/~rcgrein/screen1.jpg Bob

Is there any way to include custom tags in the various list reports, particularly List of People? I created a new tag "Last Residence" in the Other group to indicate the location where I last discovered a person living. While I could possibly use the place of death, in some cases I don't have that information for some people. I would like to print a report using list of people that includes names, dates, and the Last Residence information. However, in the report options for output columns, there are only a standard set of tags included in the drop down lists. Is there any way to add the new tag to this list? I want to output the report to an Excel file so I can manipulate it into a table.

Thank you both for your suggestions. Unfortunately, in my mind I am looking for a single line of output per person containing birth and death dates, as well as the place of last residence, and some flag values as well. If I search for multiple events, the resulting report contains multiple output lines per person. I would then have to manipulate that file to merge multiple lines into a single data row.

Is there a way to import the Master Source List from one project into an existing project? I have just updated a V6 database to V7. I haven't updated it for quite a while, so my source citations are not very recent. I have another database that I have worked on recently. It has many more source definitions that have been updated and cleaned up. I would like to be able to import or merge these newer source definitions into the older project. Is there a way to do that? Would there be a conflict with the numbering of the sources, or would the newly imported sources be assigned open source numbers? The two databases are for separate families, so they have totally different sets of people and places.

Terry, When I looked at one of the sources that I imported into the MSL, instead of that source pointing to a source type of "church record" as it was originally created, in now pointed to a source type of "dissertation". The other imported sources that I examined were similarly redirected. I guess I expected that if I would import a set of source types (adding them as new ones), then import a set of sources, that those imported sources would point to their original source types. But I don't see how one could expect those associations to be maintained. Thinking about it a bit more, I'm not sure what I should expect. If I import a set of source types and overwrite any existing ones, then import sources, I might expect those sources to point to the right source types. But I tried that experiment and they don't seem to maintain the right links. If I import source types and add them to existing ones, then import sources, I don't see how I could expect those sources to know which source type they should be associated with. I'm not sure if I could replicate a simple example or not. Bob

Terry, I tried this, and I certainly was able to export Source Types and the Master Source List from one project in V7 and then import them into another project. However, I discovered that many, if not all, of the items in the MSL are now linked to the wrong source type. I suspect this has something to do with the way the source types are indexed and how the MSL entries are linked. Initially, I added all the imported source types as new entries (by adding a name extension). When I first noticed the problem, I suspected that perhaps the indices of the source entries were changed because they were added to the existing list. I then did another test where I imported the source entries and replaced the existing list. After importing the MSL, the entries in the MSL still pointed to incorrect source types. For my purposes, as I reuse one of the imported items from the MSL, I can change the source type manually. However, I expected that after import, the MSL would be linked to the correct source type. Bob

I use a Name-Baptm tag to record the name of a person at baptism, when that is different than their primary name. For example, those baptized in a German speaking church will frequently have a German baptism name different than the name they came to use in the United States. I would like to use that name to modify the sentence structure of the Baptism tag, rather than have it printed in a separate sentence, which is placed in a second paragraph in the journal format. I find that I can locally modify individual tags to include the alternate name in the baptism sentence, and use exclusion markers to delete the sentence from the Name-Baptm tag. But is there a way to do that globally for the tags, in such a way that the additional sentence information is only included if there is a Name-Baptm tag? For example, I would like the baptism sentence to read: He was baptized as Johannes Boettner on 1 Jul 1815 in Reichensachsen, Germany. The sentence structure was modified to look like below, and the alternate name chosen for the baptism tag. [P] was baptized as [P+] <[D]> <[L]>.< [WO] sponsored the baptism.> But how can I make the additional text optional? Is there any way to include the text based on the presence of the Name-Baptm variant name tag? I don't want to have the sentence read He was baptized as Bob Greiner ... when that is already the primary name.

Thanks! That seems to work well. I also had to eliminate the sentence from the NAM-BAPTM tag so that the additional sentence does not print.

I am in the process of generating a book from multiple TMG reports. My desire is to print them to MS Word, where I can reformat, etc. There are a few problems that I cannot seem to find a solution for. The first is to generate endnotes in the document with true MS Word codes, so that the document can be modified and the endnote numbering automatically changed. In an article that Terry Reigel wrote, he said: "TMG provides output directly in the file formats of many word processors. I find this extremely handy. Because the documents are in the native format of the word processor, with source notes and index codes embedded in the word processor's formats, any editing I may do is automatically managed by the word processor's tools. If I delete text with a note attached, the note also disappears, and the remaining notes are renumbered. " Is this true for MS Word? I find that the index codes are embedded in the document, but not endnotes. Thus, I cannot add or delete endnotes and have the numbering automatically change. Are there other word processors with which this works? Secondly, I would like to generate several individual reports with endnotes. I would like to accumulate these endnotes across the several reports, with consecutive numbering throughout the reports, with one endnote section at the end. When I tried to use the book report to do that, with output going to MS Word, the endnotes are printed with each report. Thirdly, is there a way to generate a journal report that begins with the progenitor, person 1, then sorts the output so that there is a separate section (chapter) for each of the progenitor's children. I would like to keep the numbering consistent, similar to a normal journal report. I would also like the back references of descendants to reach all the way back to the progenitor. Running separate reports for each child of person 1 results in something close to what I desire, except that the numbering is repeated (although that could be adjusted for each report) and the back references only reach to the child of person 1. (And of course I am getting multiple sets of endnotes.) I realize that this is not a "standard" numbering scheme. I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Bob Greiner

Thanks for the quick response Terry. I tried that and it worked fine, except for the excessive number of footnotes. But I'll read through more of your suggestions to see if I can fix that. Note that I had to remove the Unique check box from both Sources and Memos before the "real" endnotes were exported to MS Word. Bob Greiner

I have just verified today that the missing citations are still a problem in Version 6.04. using just a few entries, I can show that after using CTRL-F3 to pick a citation from the list of previously used items, another citation that was recently entered disappears. I have been able to reproduce the problem and will send a copy of my database along with a sequence of steps to help them reproduce the problem. Let's hope it can be fixed. Bob Greiner